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Thread: H. 'Margarita' (Tincher) ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy View Post
    Alright...Prosopagnosia is "face blindness" - where the ability to recognize faces is impaired. But what do you call "pitcher blindness"? LOL

    On a serious note, (and Butch knows I hold him in high regards)...could someone tell me what is so special about the Margarita? For record, I can't for the life of me tell the parents in hybrid Neps except primary ones like the hookeriana. HELP!
    It is much easier if you collect them and have them all sitting there together.... otherwise I have trouble unless its one of the more unique species, so you're not alone LOL

    One biggie that doesn't really require knowledge of the genus is the growth rate of margarita...

    Here is a baby pic from late 2011 lol:


    Seeds started to germinate on the 29th of June 2012
    So we have a Heliamphora specimen that has gone from seed to a 6" tall adult in two years.
    That alone can be considered very unique and special. Most written refs mention this as taking at least seven years.
    No other sibling has approached anything close to this growth rate

    As far as parental characteristics.... probably easiest if I just post pics of mommy and daddy

    Momma:


    Daddy:


    Margarita:


    However, this pic of folliculata from cpphotofinder might illustrate my ref to the nectar spoon a little better:http://freespace.virgin.net/wb.sherren/DSCF6369.jpg

    If you look at the parents, you can see hints of both... the color comes from parva but oddly enough, it's even more green... not what I expected at all.
    The pitchers are covered with a very fine fuzz, again... parva influence

    The aspect ratio of the pitcher seems to have some folliculata influence, but this is more subtle,
    Shape of the pitcher... seems to be a combination of both.

    In my plant rack of Heliamphora, it is very unique looking.... the fact that neither parent is overly obvious is a good thing isn't it?

    Hope this helps a little
    Last edited by Av8tor1; 07-15-2014 at 07:12 AM.

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    mato and cindy, some characters for distinguishing Heliamphora taxa are:
    hairs: presence, absence, size, type, density, location
    anthers: number, size
    spoon: presence, absence, size, attachment (this last is a newer focus)
    bracts: length

    Here are some old keys based on relatively old concepts and characters: http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7388

    you can read some of the species descriptions and see the character based arguments the authors made (though one is always free to reject their interpretations):
    http://carnivorousplants.org/cpn/art...29n2p37_41.pdf
    http://carnivorousplants.org/cpn/art...n4p120_125.pdf
    http://carnivorousplants.org/cpn/art...31n3p78_82.pdf
    http://carnivorousplants.org/cpn/art...Nv34n1p4_6.pdf
    http://carnivorousplants.org/cpn/art...35n2p43_48.pdf
    http://carnivorousplants.org/cpn/art...n4p111_116.pdf

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    Looks good Butch!

    Do you fert your helis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dionae View Post
    Looks good Butch!

    Do you fert your helis?
    I routinely feed the pitchers.... usually fish pellets, sometimes weak fert mix, or other stuff I've caught or have laying around
    For a long time I did routine root fertilization, but no longer.
    It worked well, but no better than pitcher feedings, and pitcher feeding doesn't have the negatives that root feeding has.

    That said, I do try to maintain a reservoir TDS of about 30ppm, 0.00ppm is neither natural nor desirable IMHO

    Butch.
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    Hi Butch,
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    Thanks for the photos! I can't help but compare the H. Margarita to the H. Tequila (which I have grown and killed before LOL).
    Cindy

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    hmmmmm, I did consider "Cindy's green emerald"


    hehehehehehe
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