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H. 'Margarita' (Tincher) ?

Too early to really know for sure, but very unique so far.
If it maintains this uniqueness, this will be Heliamphora 'Margarita' (Tincher)

Very fast growing, covered with a very fine hair, unusual nectar spoon, very bright green even under intense lighting, transition from pitcher rim to spoon is unusual, unusual pitcher aspect ratio.

margarita1.jpg

margarita2.jpg

margarita3.jpg

margarita4.jpg


:-O

Thanks for looking,
Av
 
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Very pretty. More motivation for me to get a HL setup together.
 
thx dragoness, helis do not really require a HL set up.... just keep them under 78 and you will be fine.
IMHO some ppl get them too cold at night.
 
very interesting, this is parva x folliculata?
 
wow very nice!
 
Spectacular plant. :clap:
 
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very interesting, this is parva x folliculata?

yes, good call Mike.... the spoon is definitely the giveaway

but it's also unique among its siblings....
I wont make the cultivar call till I see how the siblings mature, but so far... this particular plant is definitely one of a kind.

:awesome:
 
I can't provide under 78 here without AC. Not during the summer anyways.
 
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That's a real beaut, Av8tor! That's a fine image of the nectar spoon, and the name you've picked is a perfect fit.
Cheers,
Paul
 
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Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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That's a real beaut, Av8tor! That's a fine image of the nectar spoon, and the name you've picked is a perfect fit.
Cheers,
Paul

Thanks Paul, Fav
It reminded me of a nice cold, frothy Margarita on the rocks..... yum!

Those images were taken hand held with ambient light using a 30 yr old 50mm Planar T* f/1.7 MMJ Zeiss lens :)
I love how you can see the reflections of my fluorescent lights in the drops of nectar.
 
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All hail Butch, patron saint of the tepuis -- and smoked meats . . .
 
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Alright...Prosopagnosia is "face blindness" - where the ability to recognize faces is impaired. But what do you call "pitcher blindness"? LOL

On a serious note, (and Butch knows I hold him in high regards)...could someone tell me what is so special about the Margarita? For record, I can't for the life of me tell the parents in hybrid Neps except primary ones like the hookeriana. HELP!
 
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Alright...Prosopagnosia is "face blindness" - where the ability to recognize faces is impaired. But what do you call "pitcher blindness"? LOL

On a serious note, (and Butch knows I hold him in high regards)...could someone tell me what is so special about the Margarita? For record, I can't for the life of me tell the parents in hybrid Neps except primary ones like the hookeriana. HELP!


I have to agree. With this genus in particular, I can't see the features that seem to distinguish these different plants. Maybe I don't look at them enough, but what is it?
 
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Alright...Prosopagnosia is "face blindness" - where the ability to recognize faces is impaired. But what do you call "pitcher blindness"? LOL

On a serious note, (and Butch knows I hold him in high regards)...could someone tell me what is so special about the Margarita? For record, I can't for the life of me tell the parents in hybrid Neps except primary ones like the hookeriana. HELP!

It is much easier if you collect them and have them all sitting there together.... otherwise I have trouble unless its one of the more unique species, so you're not alone LOL

One biggie that doesn't really require knowledge of the genus is the growth rate of margarita...

Here is a baby pic from late 2011 lol:
folliculata_pollentubes_hf.jpg


Seeds started to germinate on the 29th of June 2012
So we have a Heliamphora specimen that has gone from seed to a 6" tall adult in two years.
That alone can be considered very unique and special. Most written refs mention this as taking at least seven years.
No other sibling has approached anything close to this growth rate

As far as parental characteristics.... probably easiest if I just post pics of mommy and daddy

Momma:
parva3_hf.jpg


Daddy:
folliculata


Margarita:
margarita3.jpg


However, this pic of folliculata from cpphotofinder might illustrate my ref to the nectar spoon a little better:http://freespace.virgin.net/wb.sherren/DSCF6369.jpg

If you look at the parents, you can see hints of both... the color comes from parva but oddly enough, it's even more green... not what I expected at all.
The pitchers are covered with a very fine fuzz, again... parva influence

The aspect ratio of the pitcher seems to have some folliculata influence, but this is more subtle,
Shape of the pitcher... seems to be a combination of both.

In my plant rack of Heliamphora, it is very unique looking.... the fact that neither parent is overly obvious is a good thing isn't it?

Hope this helps a little
 
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mato and cindy, some characters for distinguishing Heliamphora taxa are:
hairs: presence, absence, size, type, density, location
anthers: number, size
spoon: presence, absence, size, attachment (this last is a newer focus)
bracts: length

Here are some old keys based on relatively old concepts and characters: http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7388

you can read some of the species descriptions and see the character based arguments the authors made (though one is always free to reject their interpretations):
http://carnivorousplants.org/cpn/articles/CPNv29n2p37_41.pdf
http://carnivorousplants.org/cpn/articles/CPNv30n4p120_125.pdf
http://carnivorousplants.org/cpn/articles/CPNv31n3p78_82.pdf
http://carnivorousplants.org/cpn/articles/CPNv34n1p4_6.pdf
http://carnivorousplants.org/cpn/articles/CPNv35n2p43_48.pdf
http://carnivorousplants.org/cpn/articles/CPNv33n4p111_116.pdf
 
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Looks good Butch!

Do you fert your helis?
 
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Looks good Butch!

Do you fert your helis?

I routinely feed the pitchers.... usually fish pellets, sometimes weak fert mix, or other stuff I've caught or have laying around
For a long time I did routine root fertilization, but no longer.
It worked well, but no better than pitcher feedings, and pitcher feeding doesn't have the negatives that root feeding has.

That said, I do try to maintain a reservoir TDS of about 30ppm, 0.00ppm is neither natural nor desirable IMHO

Butch.
 
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