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    A leuco by any other name would still be as gluttonous. CorneliusSchrute's Avatar
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    Yea. So the setup above wasn't going to work in the closet I had relegated for it: too hot in thurrr! Not enough ventilation anyway. I now have moved it to the garage and tweaked it as follows.

    - Three 26 watt, 6500k CFLs (should be well over three thousand lumens)
    - Computer fan for tank ventilation
    - Two computer fans for cooling the bulbs (not required right now in my brisk garage)
    - clear plastic cover for the ten gallon tank

    Ambient conditions in the garage:



    The setup:












    Conditions in the tank (I just pulled the meter out to take the picture):



    All of this has resulted in MUCH more suitable conditions. Lights and reflector on full blast only raises the tank temperature around ten degrees Fahrenheit... which come to think of is about the difference noted when inside.

    I think this setup will work for this fall winter and next spring. My garage gets HOT in the summer though. I am sure the plants will croak if left there. I wish I had a basement. :/

    ...and two questions:

    1) I read Heliamphora can tolerate temps down to just above freezing. The Sarrs in my garage last year did freeze up once or twice, but they weren't in a heated tank. As long as I keep them somewhat above 35 degrees Fahrenheit will I be fine?

    2) I am thinking about a 24-hour light cycle. Full blast, full time. Bad idea?
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    A leuco by any other name would still be as gluttonous. CorneliusSchrute's Avatar
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    Also...

    3) How do I know when the "breeze" is too strong in the tank? The plants aren't moving around or anything, but I can see *slight* rippling of the water on the fan side of the tank.
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    while helis might be able to survive low temps and high airflow, growth rates will suffer....

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    Noted.
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    Alright children! I have something to say....

    THANKS! ...and check out my Heli progress. If it weren't for your guidance my plants would still be in a state of atrophy on my window sill.

    New growth on the heterodoxa is especially exciting.




    Recent updates include 3/4" foam on all sides of the tank and a snazzy eBay-sourced misting device. Temps are making out at 68 degrees Fahrenheit with a humidity level between 75 and 94%.

    It is in my garage, this setup. I have been worried about it getting to cold in the tank. So far it hasn't been below 60, but this is because I have been leaving the lights on 24/7. Thoughts on this?
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    Heliamphora can experience temperatures naturally in the wild as low as the upper 30's on occasion, the table mountains can get very cold at times. The real concern is not so much how cool it gets, but whether or not it gets too warm.
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    hey, i'm curious what is that yellow ish looking thing hanging outside your tank? Also can i have the maker and model of your fan? i am in the process of looking for a fan.

    Do you have a link to the fogger you bought and how is it working?

    Thanks!!!

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    http://www.viewweather.com/w7381263-...o_bolivar.html
    http://www.viewweather.com/w7417892-...o_bolivar.html
    http://www.viewweather.com/w7380707-...o_bolivar.html
    http://www.viewweather.com/w7377242-...o_bolivar.html

    As a general rule, I don't recommend temps below 60 for Heliamphora,
    nor do I recommend strong air flow
    My experience has shown either condition over extended periods will lead to poor growth rates and poor health
    Consistency is critical with some species.... some variants of neblinae are drama queens if you make sudden changes

    but ymmv, only sharing what I have seen based on my personal experiences and research.
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