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    As far as I know the only clone that has enough evidence that light is not playing a huge part in its colorations is 'Eden Black'. However, even with that clone getting passed around there is still little documented about it. Even with mass amounts of viable and verifiable 'Eden Black' X seeds out there we are not seeing the photographic evidence I would expect. The 'Eden Black' X seeds I have are mid to bad for coloration and are showing no special traits yet. If you dig around a lot there are a handful of possibly special plants coming out from these seeds.

    With 'Eden Black' we have http://www.carnivorousplants.org/cul...ltivar_web.pdf, figure 2 showing different clones growing in similar conditions with a wide range of colorations. Basically what we need for every "black/purple/special" claim.

    With this new dark clone only being 3+ years old (I believe that is what I read earlier) it will be a long time before enough info is gathered.

    Perhaps one of the most interesting Eden crosses out there imo. http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index...howtopic=51153

    I'd love to get my hands on that one!
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    how many different clones do you have RSS?

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    That is a good question...I'd have to count them. About a dozen or so "named" Cephs growing under a variety of lighting/conditions. Add to that the seed grown ones and it would be a lot. As for traits in those named plants 4-5 actually have traits that stand out. None of the seed grown plants I have are anything special yet.

    The Emu Point I have is special, or I just have the goldilocks zone for leaf production. Best answer I can get is that Emu Point is a location seed grown plant and there may be 1 or 100 different clones with the same name. Same with the Phil Mann I have its special, very wide color variations between plants in exact conditions/age. Another odd named plant, from my research all Phil Mann means is that is was a plant he collected due to some trait that was better than the surrounding ones and there could be hundreds with the same name all different.

    If you spend a little time trying to figure out where most of these accepted clones came from you generally end up hitting a wall with no info. They just appear overnight as if someone removed the Emu point label and added a 'Big Boy' label. Gotta love Ceph names

    I'm pretty sure my 'Hummer's Giant', that I have a paper trail back to him, is not the same plant pokie is growing . Never a pitcher much over 2". But then again I've never grown the giant pitchers on any of my Cephs.

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    I have a dozen or so named cephs, some from across the pond as well. And temps and light are the main contributing factors to color. I have a number of friends in the UK that have Eden black and not one of them look 100% like the mother plant. And these are bought directly from the source. They maybe slightly darker than other clones but not the brown/black color the clone is known for....

    Same with giant pitchers. If you alter your growing conditions then you will be able to achieve those desired results. Some plants have better traits than others but you can coax a healthy plant in the direction you want.

    But great looking photos indeed. I need to get LEDs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSS View Post
    If you spend a little time trying to figure out where most of these accepted clones came from you generally end up hitting a wall with no info. They just appear overnight as if someone removed the Emu point label and added a 'Big Boy' label. Gotta love Ceph names
    Hello again RSS it's looking like I have to correct you yet again. Big Boy has been in cultivation since at least 1983 and in the UK, Germany,South Africa and the USA since the later 1980s. I don't think that is quite overnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RSS View Post
    As far as I know the only clone that has enough evidence that light is not playing a huge part in its colorations is 'Eden Black'. !
    I have to correct you once again. The light plays huge factor for the coloration of Eden Black, otherwise u surely will end up with green plant.
    However I haven't seen any proofs so far in Europe someone to get the same color as Stephen Morely claims u would get....

    I have sent Eden Black to Pokie22 in USA, so probably she would enter with some updated pics lol
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    Try re-reading what I posted. Maybe it is the UK English vs US English. Both corrections are not corrections.

    Either way I have better things to do with my time than try to pass along information I think others might want if they clearly do not want it.

    Something to read that I did not have anything to do with. http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...-43-March-2014

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    I'm afraid they are both corrections RSS, it has nothing to do with the english language. The information you have passed on in these two posts was confusing in the first one and quite frankly insulting in the second. I'm afraid Mr Nunn communicates through ignorance too.
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