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    Hi Chris,
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    I always thought xCatesbaei to be a naturally occuring hybrid between leucophylla and purp venosa, your thoughts on the subject?
    And yes I did mention frilling. But not on the subject plant. I said that if the plant had the heritage I suggested then it had been out bred to remove the frilling.

    I have both catesbaei and stevensii in my collection and they look nothing like each other, stevensii has long, upright, heavilly veined pitchers that slowly turn a deep burgundy with age while catesbaei has short, upright pitchers with a definate bulge in the center (purp. venosa) and a combination hood that is upright (p.v.) heavilly veined (p.v. and leuco) with some white "windows" as are found in leucophilla[/QUOTE]

    Catesbaei is the hybrid between purpurea ssp. venosa and flava, the plant you have will be x mitchelliana, the Stevensii plant we have in Europe is mislabelled. Stevensii is a synonym for catesbaei and therefore has no leuco parentage, yet the Dutch who mass propagate this clone have probably got S x (rubraxpupurea)xleucophylla to get that amount of redness whilst having attractive white/pink early pitchers.

    I can assure you that the pictures I posted are absolutely pure oreophila, the problem with I dentifying the first photo in this thread was there was no sense of scale nor pictures of the whole plant, eg no phyllodia showing.

    I would be interested in seeing your flying pig collection! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
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    Mike King

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    I have a little update on this plant. Here are two more pictures of it.


    The newest and largest unformed pitcher is 25.5cm/10in in height.
    Sorry, the picture is a little dark. Also, I didn't fertilize the plant with milk. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]


    Notice the 2 phyllodia.

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    It is oreophila without a doubt, but it looks like it is still putting up pitchers so how/what growing conditions have you got it in?
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    Mike King

    NCCPG National collection holder of Sarracenia

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    id like to hear that too, mine stoped pitchering a while ago
    and i love in florida.
    Joel

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    I live in California. The days are warm here. Today it's about 80 degrees Fahrenheit/26 degrees Celsius. It gets exposed to natural light facing the South window.

    All of my Sarracenia plants are still growing. I believe some of my D. intermedia might be starting going into hibernation.

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    Mike

    right you are!

    after further research and some sleep ( its five in the morning here when i'm chatting) i appolagise and confer. I am very sorry to say that my pig collection all swam away and no trace of them has been found [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img]. However I would like to argue the no spout statement that you made. I have seen and have both oreophila and flava's that have a very prominent spout and i think that the pitchers in the above mentioned pictures (pardon the pun) show definate signs of peristomal spouting. I would be interested in discussing these matters with you on a more personal basis (ie. Email addresses). chris
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    Hi Chris,
    I agree flava has the spout, but the 11 different oreos here in my collection don't. They are so different to flava in this department. Here are some flava pics from my gallery page that show 'the spout'!





    and to compare to the oreophila below again:-


    Of course, I would be happy to discuss this, but I think there are a lot of interested parties in this discussion! If you would like to contact me directly my email address is mking1@compuserve.com

    You have also inspired me to make some better pictures next year of the oreophilas here!

    [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
    Best Regards

    Mike King

    NCCPG National collection holder of Sarracenia

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