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Thread: Giant Cephalotus follicularis "myth or reality"

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    The first sentence of the first paragraph under the Fig.3 photograph states, "Under artificially controlled conditions, this plant can reach up to 8cm long (3 inches)."
    Do you mean the pitchers can reach 8cm?

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    Gus,

    You should be very proud of producing such an excellent article! It was worth the wait....and those photos....!!!
    Congratulations on a job well done :-) I know how hard you have worked on this article, drawing together the many facts, and communicating with growers all over the world. Thanks for sharing these efforts with all of us!




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    Hey Folks,

    Something important should be noted in this discussion of giant Cephalotus plants. The cultivar description of Cephalotus 'Hummer's Giant' notes the primary characteristic of this cultivar is its giant pitchers. Therefore, although it may seem strange, ANY Cephalotus with genetically fixed, giant traps is 'Hummer's Giant.' The plant referred to as "true giant" in Agustin Franco's excellent article is therefore actually just another clone of Cephalotus 'Hummer's Giant'. If someone wants, they could certainly establish the "true giant" as a new cultivar, they'd just have to publish an article naming the plant, and saying why it is different.

    Oh, another minor criticism of the article is that the cultivar name should always be set in single quotes, not double quotes.

    All that aside, an interesting read! Good to hear that there are so many clones of these big plants out there!

    Cheers

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    Thank you William, Mr. Rice and all of you. The purpose of writing this article is to make clear once and for all how many ceph giants are available in the world.

    I also suspected the same thing as Mr. Rice. However, even though, I am tempted to introduce the true giant and register it as another cultivar, I do respect the fact that Mr. Harold Weiner discovered it and brought it to everybody's attention.

    If I get to speak to Harold Weiner in the future, I would ask him for permission to formally introduce this cultivar to the world of CP's.

    Agustin Franco

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    Thank you William, Mr. Rice and all of you. The purpose of writing this article is to make clear once and for all how many ceph giants are available in the world.

    I also suspected the same thing as Mr. Rice. However, even though, I am tempted to introduce the true giant and register it as another cultivar, I do respect the fact that Mr. Harold Weiner discovered it and brought it to everybody's attention.

    If I get to speak to Harold Weiner in the future, I would ask him for permission to formally introduce this cultivar to the world of CP's.

    Agustin Franco[/QUOTE]
    Hi Agustin,

    There is quite a bit of interest in giant Cephalotus plants. I'd definitely encourage you to establish a cultivar name for another clone if it has distinct, describable characteristics.

    While it would be, I think, polite and good form to obtain permission and even perhaps co-authorship from Harold Weiner in the description of this plant, it is not necessary. Once the originator starts distributing the plant, it is "open season" for anyone who might wish to register the name.

    But as I said, I would try to contact Mr. Weiner and work out some mutually satisfactory arrangement ahead of time.

    Cheers

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    Dear Mr. Meyer-Rice:

    I am going a step further, I am going to analyze the genetic differences between the giants besides phenotypic characteristics. It is matter of time, before we'll get some results. When I do, it'll be a another nice article.

    I do believe on what you say, it is now a matter of time.

    Agustin Franco

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    I would like to bring this topic up again, because I think I have dicovered a symbiotic fungus growing in one of my pots of Ceph. 'Giant'. The Ceph. 'Giant' is the clone from Wistuba and I would like to note that it is definately not slow growing, even under very high light. Whether or not this is due to the fungus I'm not sure. But I will try to find out. The fungus in question is brown and threadlike. It seems to grow all around the base of the Ceph. and into the sphagnum. I have only found this fungus in one of my pots of Cephalotus. But I recently innoculated the pot of another Ceph. with this fungus and will report any increases in growth rate.

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    Hi Mike:

    Thanks for your input!!. I would like to inform you though that Richard Davion from South Australia is doing a Master's degree on Cephalotus follicularis symbiotic fungus!!. He is been working on it for several years now!!. maybe you should get in touch with him in the future. Please let me now or Tamlin Dawnstar know about it, if you are interested.

    Agustin

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