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    Hello all!

    I know that we've talked about this in the past, but I'd like a bit of clarification on this.

    So, are H heterodoxa and H minor the only 2 heliamphora plants that can handle warm lowland temperatures? Also, are there specific clones from these plants that can and can't take the higher temps? I'm asking because I really want to try growing a heli or 2; they are definitly some of the most beautiful plants in the world!!! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    H.Heterodoxa plants in cultivation orginated form the warmer lowlands and are therefore warmer tolerant plants. Minor is also tolerant of warmer conditions o I think you can get away with growing on just fine!

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    Try the hybrids which include H. heterodoxa.

    Night time temperature should be below 20°C.

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    um martin, that's the problem... I would like to grow the helis outside with my lowland nepenthes plants, but I really can't get the temps lower than 24C (75F) at night on a regular basis. I don't have room for another terrarium... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/img]

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    Hi,

    if you can't immitate the natural habitat you shouldn't try to grow them. Heliamphora are highland plants and expect lower night temperature.
    The easiest Heliamphora from my plants is H. heterodoxa x minor (but the other hybrids with heterodoxa should also be "easy").

    I like Nepenthes bicalcarata very much but will never grow it because I can't provide the hot temperatures and the huge space what this species will need.

    Martin

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    Cool

    I understand what you mean Martin, but plants in general can be adaptable, and I've heard that some people have been able to grow heliamphora plants under warmer conditions than what they experience in their natural habitat. Peter D'Amato himself mentions in his book (I gave my copy of the book away, so I'm paraphrasing here) that some heliamphora, I believe H heterodoxa, can be grown in a hothouse. I didn't mean to be rude in my previous reply, and I'm sorry if it sounded like that. I just want to know if there are some heliamphora that are adaptable enought to grow decently with warmer tempratures than usual.

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    Your best bet to try would be H. heterodoxa from Gran Sabana or one of the hybrids made with it. Not sure which might be the most adaptable. I would think the pure heterodoxa would take the heat better because it doesn't have any genes from cool growing species mixed in. However sometimes hybrids will be more vigorous because of the 'hybrid vigor'.

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    I would argue that the temp does not have to drop to 20 C for all the hybrids. I had my heterodoxa x minor growing on my windowsill all summer and the min temp in the house was 25 C or so. It grew (and still is growing) like a weed.
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