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    Now I wonder if plants grown from seed in the tropics would be more adaptable than plants that are imported from a temperate climate.[/QUOTE]

    Hi tropics. I doubt a plant grown from seed in a tropical climate would act any different. It's still a seed from a temperate plant that must go dormant in winter to survive. It expects cold weather when the days get shorter. If it doesn't get this it will not go dormant and will die. The reverse is also true. If a tropical palm tree is grown outside in Alaska it will die because it expects continuous tropical temps, even in winter. So, a native tropical plant expects tropical weather and a native temperate plant expects temperate weather. Just my .0002 x 10^4 cents [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] (.0002 x 10^4 = .0002 x 10,000 = 2 cents, sorry i have way too much math [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif[/img] ) Anyhow, tropics i hope you find a cp you can enjoy!! They're a lot of fun!!! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]


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    Actually Tropics, you do have a choice. A friend of mine has a friend who lives in Brazil that has been raising certain sarracenias for several years now without dormancy and they haven't died. My friend also have been raising sarracenias without dormancy and they're very very healthy. I'm also raising the same ones they have cuz I live in Puerto Rico which is very similar to Hawaii. The sarracenias are s. pupurea venosa, s. leucaphylla, s. rubra (I don't know which kind of rubra though), and other s. hybrids which I just can't remember [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img] . Well that's just me though [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img]
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    Erick....

    1) I don't acutally know the person in brazil that has the sarrs, I just read about him and saw his plants on the CP listserv.

    2) I've only had the sarrs for a year i think, but they did go into a dormant state last year around December. They did this without any help from me... I think it was the shortened day-length that did the trick.

    I'm hoping that my plants will do the same thing again this year.

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    I don't believe that any sarracenia will survive without dormancy. The number of genes which affect appearance are relatively small, so whatever they look like they still require similar growing conditions. Sure there are a few exceptions e.g. oreophila can survive in drier soils, purpurea ssp. purpurea can survive lower termperatures, but they all require a rest period.
    I can only assume the Brazilian plants are tissue cultured but will eventually need a rest, or a period of a cool few weeks was enough to satisfy their sleep needs.
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    Here's a further update on growing Sarracenia in the tropics. This past weekend I went to a plant sale in Honolulu and was surprised to find someone selling Sarracenia. More accurately, I was on the verge of being overjoyed because it was the first time I had seen Sarracenia for sale in Hawaii. The plants appeared to be quite healthy, and of course I had to get a couple of them. The grower had three varieties. Each S. "Scarlet Belle" plant had about 30 pitchers averaging 6 inches in length. Each S. leucophylla "Tarnok" and S. flava plant had about 10 pitchers averaging 10 inches in length. I asked the grower how he grew them. He said he initially purchased flasks of tissue cultured plants. He chose these particular varieties because they were the only ones available at the time. He later transferred them to pots, which I believe he put in a greenhouse where they were often sprayed with water. Now he has them outdoors throughout the year and waters them daily. (He does not have the plants in trays of water.) He uses water directly from the public water system, which is low in minerals. He grows them in Kaneohe, a town on the island of Oahu that is at low elevation, so it is fairly warm there throughout the year. The lowest temperature is probably about 58 degrees F. (15 degrees C.) during winter months, and the highest temperature is about 90 degrees F. (30 degrees C.) during the summer. Kaneohe is on the windward side of the island, where it is relatively cloudy and rainy compared to the rest of the island, and the average annual rainfall is about 70 inches. The plants are now 2 years old, and have never gone dormant. I asked him if he knew why, and he didn't know. He said that when he got them, he didn't know if they would grow, but he just wanted to see if he could grow them. I'd say he has done quite a good job.

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    Welcome Tropics

    While my experience is limited, i can tell you that my S. minor went through two winters in my window (in a terrarium). It definitely experienced a dormancy, even though i'm sure it never was below 50F. Several more experienced people have shown that the change in photoperiod alone seems to work with some, if not all, sarrs. I think you'll have a good chance of finding some that will do okay in Hawaii.

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