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    Hello,
    I don't know where you are located, but if you have the plant outside part of the day- why not leave it out all of the day? The plant will cycle down on its own.
    I don't fully understand the exact sleep nature that is mentioned here with native USA plants. A slow natural occurance takes place regarding dormancy. It just can't be turned on & off at will. Subjecting and actively growing plant to a possible harsh environment without preparing can cause the loss of the plant.
    Even in habitat during dormancy plenty of warm days occur for the southern Sarracenia. It is not uncommon for a pitcher here and there to form.
    A lot of the Sarracenia have now formed a big bud at the base of the rhizome and are dormant. Still others are producing pitchers, some deformed, some very pretty just at a slower rate. Seedlings for the most are still actively growing. A few have bloomed within the last month, this happens too. It is the seasonal change that slowly prepares the plant for rest. But it isn't a deep sleep by any means.
    Plants that are outside and still producing a plethera of pitchers most likely are recent ex-tc plants and not totally inline with the natural growing cycle. These can be handled as a seedling the first year and skip the dormant period. Dormancy is best, and leaving the plants outside to acclimate to the lower daily light levels, humidity changes, less moisture in the soil, & cooler day/night temps is the best way to let it happen if possible.
    Take care,
    ~ Mike

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    Thanks MPH101. I do believe this one is recently out of tissue culture..maybe that's why it's going strong. Perhaps I will skip dormancy this time around. By the way, I'm in the Houston area.
    It's been quite warm during the day here but then last nite we got a real cold snap so I brought the plant inside to a sunnny place. I was afraid the snap was too abrupt and would kill it. Anyhow, thanks so much for your thoughts on the subject. Also, you are lucky to live in the St.Pete area...what a great place. I'm a beach bum at heart and get to your part of the world a couple of times a year for vacation. With a bit of luck I'll move there permanently some day. (I'm a dreamer [img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    Greenhouse,

    I live in San Antonio, and I expect you have experienced the same "Blue Nortnern" that blew through for us yesterday. We are experiencing our first multi-day span of mid sixties weather! [img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

    In regards to putting your plant into dormancy:

    finding out whether your Purpera just came out of tissue culture is as easy as asking Phil and Jaie, and letting them know when you purchased it. I have a gut feeling it has actually been out for a while, simply because They are trying to clear out their purpera stock so they can make room for other strains of Sar's this spring (According to their sales page!)

    Any how, it is entirely possible that it just came out of TC< and is young enough that you don't need to put it to bed.

    My Sars which are all out doors now, (some were moved a month ago) have all slowed down, probably to reduced photo period, certainly not the temperatures, and have massive buds on the end of the rhiozomes, they are going to go in the fridge the minute the fungicide comes in from Phil and Jeff.

    While it is true you can lose plants do to rapid cycling into dormancy, I don't think it should be an incredibly large concern, if you are going to wrap them up and put them in the fridge bare root, by taking simple precautions I think you can ensure your plant will survive, but I won't bet the farm on that. There are exceptions to every rule.

    Also remember that you may be sacrificing far more vigorous growth this spring, by giving it this vigorous growth period now, and sacrificing formancy.

    My personal opinion is some where between going immediately into dormancy, and skipping it, like Mike said, I think if it is OK outside, then I would leave it out there 24/7, And I can pretty much gurantee you that barring a squirrel attack, it will be OK, mine were enduring the 102 degree summer we had in San Antonio this year. Leave it outside, and the reduced photo period will eventually get it through to the plant that it should go to sleep for the winter... then go ahead and go through your dormancy steps and wake it back up next year.

    You'll allmost certainly be fine going either route, but here is something to keep in mind, something that San Antonio and Houston share... Brutally hot summers... your going to get your best pitcher growth in early spring, which is most peoples late winter, if your plant decides to go dormant in spring on it's own, well, you just lost your best growing period for the year, cause we both know fall is practically non existent in south texas, summer is almost all year long, and winter, when we decide to have it, is a freaked out almalgamation of all other seasons!

    Another thing to consider is that the Big Thicket, which isn't to far from houston, is a natural growing place for Sarracenia Purpera, and once you have the plant aclimated out doors, you might be able to leave it there all year long, I am not sure about how different houston vs. Big thicket temps, humidity, and so on are... but it's a thought...

    By teh way, Mike, nice site, Bical and Raf pics are gorgeous.

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