Hey you all forgot he cultivar S.Purpurea "Red Ruffles". Ha! Beat you there! :cheesy: Mike, S.Purpurea spp. Venosa var. Montana/ AKA S.Purpurea Montana, isn't availabel to ANYONE yet not even D'Amato or the CP "leaders" "regulators" etc. It is HEAVILY protected in it's mountainous habitat in the southern Appalachian mountains.