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    Hey all, I have this S. flava labeled as S. flava var. flava. But I am thinking because of the color concentration; perhaps it is var. rugelli? Could a Sarracenia with good experience help me out please? Thanks! I also included a few other Sarracenia pictures to save on topic posts. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    Hi,

    Nice pics!

    I think, your S. flava is neither a var rugelii, nor a var flava. I do rather think, it is a hybrid between maybe var flava and maxima. For me your plant doesn't show any clear characteristic of any of the variety. In this context i would be interested if any flava belongs to one of the varieties.

    Christian

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    Hi Christian, Thank you for your input. I never thought of that. It is a new plant (1 year in my possession) so I don't know the true normal coloration of it. The pitcher pictured is relativly old and should be fully colored up but it may not be as the sun is not highest in the sky yet and it has been for the average rainy here in New York State for the spring season so far, so with that stated maybe we will have to see if it does indeed color up more.

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    Hey Dustin,
    I agree with Christian that it is probably a hybrid between maxima and another variety (most likely flava). I have a similar plant, but with even less venation (there's a pic in a recent post). There is just the slightest hint of red venation at the throat, and some faint red veins inside the tube. Anyway, a rugelli would have no red veins, just a red splotch, while var. flava would have a concentration of red on the throat, with red veins radiating from it.
    BTW, is that the catesbaei I sent you? Looking good, as are all of your plants!

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    Hi,

    Here is a picture of one of my flavas. This one could be a hybrid between rugelii and maxima. I would not say, that this plant belongs to any of the described varieties.



    The picture is a link to the same picture in a higher resolution.

    Christian

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    Hi Aaron, yes it is the catesbaei you sent me, my only one! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] It truly is a monsterous clone! Maybe you should think of registering it as S. catesbaei 'big foot' or something lol. Still an awesome clone! It never ceases to amaze me with the larger and larger pitchers.

    Christian, lovely photo! What does everyone think I should do, rename it to S. flava var. flava x var. rugelli? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img]

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    Hi,

    You don't know, if it is a hybrid. It could be, but nobody really knows. So, just label it as S. flava. This should be O.K.

    Christian

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    Sounds good, I wish Mike King would happen to come across this and privde his expertise at this also! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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