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    Regarding that ESA act, I wonder how the highway department is allowed to drive over, drudge up or otherwise destroy 10s of thousands of wild orchids and pitcher plants in Northern Minnesota while MIN D.O.T. expands the highway system.
    I'm quite sure habitat destruction further endangers the plants. it makes absolutely no sense at all to preserve a species and then allow continued destruction of the species' habitat...

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    I was under the impresion that S. oreophila could be given to someone as a gift. You can not sell or trade for it but you can give or receive it as a gift. Or am I confusing it with another Sarracenia?



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    I believe you can send this plant as a gift in the U.S. If not, it would be very difficult to spread these plants in cultivation.

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    Ah that's why I could fly home with it. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img] I will be spreading the joy too when mine gets larger. I can;t wait to see the pitchers on this guy...

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    I believe it's O.K. to sell cultivated plants in state. I have been to several nurseries here in Oregon that sells tissue cultured plants of S. oreophilia, S. rubra alabamensis, and S.r. jonesii. And I'm not sure these laws apply to any tissue cultured plants at all, but I could be wrong on that. It might be easier here on the west coast to sell these plants since they are not native.
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    Jack,

    The laws do apply, when TC'd plants of the endangered Sarr are sold there is also some paperwork involved (from what I have been told.)
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    Apologies if this goes a little off topic, but I have to agree with Swords. some of these restrictions do little more than romanticize and popularize the plants, at the same time interfering with their legitimate dispersal. I could get 50 S. oreophila rhizomes tomorrow to redistribute, from nursery grown stock (the grower has no more room for them, he cannot sell enough of them, and he cannot give them away since he is a commercial dealer, who would believe they were for free?) So, I am prohibited by law and discouraged by the paperwork. Sure, I could cheat and do it anyways, which is just my point. Many do. I feel C.I.T.E.S. legislation does as much harm as it does good. It certainly does little to curtail field collection.

    Regarding legal issues of possessing these plants, it has been suggested by Dr. Barry Meyers that accurate records be kept of the source of your plants, preferably with a legal bill of sale appended to the record. This also applies to the white flowered form of P. ionatha, also cites protected. Sheesh. I am sure there is a veritable army of plant cops out there with snooperscopes methodically looking into everyones collections, and they have dossiers on us all.....

    Meanwhile, shipments are being seized of tens of thousands of mature wild harvested VFT bulbs! It sure sounds like something isn't working here, or am I missing something?

    You can't dig them up, but it's fine to plow them under. These plants had no business evolving on future golf courses.

    By the way, if you do want to ship a S. oreophila, simply do so with a label marked "un-named Sarracenia Hybrid", but kindly do not disturb any native populations. In fact, don't even seek them out to look at them. Footprints alter drainage patterns. Stay away and let them live or die now in peace, in the sliver of reality that is left to them.

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