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    I really wouldn't worry too much about "stepping on toes." If you keep in mind that a cultivar should be unique, you'll know what should be established as a cultivar. Someone new to Sarracenia would have trouble realizing what this means. It's not until you've seen thousands of flava x purp hybrids, could you be certain that you've got something unique.
    I do want to mention something again. The significance of having a plant named as a cultivar has as much to do with distribution. If only a few people are going to grow this plant, it's not important to have the plant named. Plants that are widely distributed, should be named as cultivars. If for no other reason, to have a record of origin. There are several Sarracenia and vft clones that are widely distributed but, not named officially. These plants are known by a wide range of names and their origins are becoming forgotten. This is a point that shouldn't be taken lightly.
    You ask about personal tastes. Well, I find Alan Hindle's Sx'Judith Hindle' one of the most beautiful hybrids produced. I really admire it's large undulating lid with it's bright colors. Unfortunately, it has poor disease resistance. Another beautiful cultivar is Dr.Mellichamp's Sx'Dixie Lace.' This plant has wonderful veining and color. I don't like it's constant dividing properties. It takes years before it'll produce large pitchers because most of the energy is diverted into dividing. John Hummer has produced some noteworthy plants. His Sx'Okee Classic' is stunning. It produces large lids with bright yellow/orange color. The plant pitchers very well and makes a wonderful display at maturity. The photo that was included with it's publication in the CPN is really a poor representation of the plant. He has another hybrid that should be named this year. It's another one of my favorites.
    Another personal taste of mine has to do with pitcher shape. When I look at species, I look for a plant that is nicely shaped. I like flavas that have very wide and flared pitcher openings. I try to find a plant that is flared as significantly as a trumpet. Significant flaring like a trumpet is quite rare.
    Hope this answers some of your questions,
    imduff

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    I do agree that anyone has the right to name a cultivar if he/she believes it merits that distinction. But I think there is a fine line between when and when not to name a plant. Like imduff said, I think the big key is distribution. If the plant is not going to be widely available, it makes no sense to give it a name. I could be wrong, but it seems at least some of the cultivars over the past few years have been bred solely to be nice, compact, easy-to-grow plants for the nursery mass-market trade, which I think is wrong. It's just my personal opinion, but I don't think growth habit should be considered when determining cultivar status. I think it should be based on color, shape, etc.
    As far as what I personally would like to see. I think unique shapes are what I would be most interested in. You could have 1000 leuco/flava based hybrids, all nice and big with lots of color, but when you get down to it, they all have a similar shape and pretty much look the same. I would like to see more psittacina-based hybrids, not primary hybrids though. I've got two plants: a leuco x (psitt x rubra) and a leuco x (psitt x leuco) that have very unique shapes to them, not to mention the coloration. That is definitely an area I want to get into breeding, making plants that are 25% psittacina.

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    Thanks Sarracenia and Imduff! Yes, I agree with you both. What good is a cultivar if just a few have it? Distribution is important. I know a local grower that wants to name a cultivar but cannot get it to tissue culture. i.e. limited distribution. What are your thoughts on 'found' plants(naturally occuring hybrids) where the exact parantage is unknow for cretain but may warrant cultivar status? I have two in mind that I think are complex moorei crosses. Moorei crosses can be nice but not outstanding. Both of these however, are stunning plants! I am interested to see what you guys think of these.

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    The exact parentage of a hybrid does not need to be known to be established as a cultivar. I don't have to mention the ethics of collecting from the wild but, the plants that we grow are at least descendants of wild collected plants. This is not exclusive to CP. Thankfully, artificial propagation has filled a void in the market for these plants. Having mentioned that, I know there are cultivars that originated from the wild. I've even seen "wild" plants that are stunning. If you have something that you feel is worth naming, then "go for it." I'd be happy to view any photos that you send me. It's not for me to judge but, I can at least mention if I've seen anything similar.

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