Thanks Sarracenia and Imduff! Yes, I agree with you both. What good is a cultivar if just a few have it? Distribution is important. I know a local grower that wants to name a cultivar but cannot get it to tissue culture. i.e. limited distribution. What are your thoughts on 'found' plants(naturally occuring hybrids) where the exact parantage is unknow for cretain but may warrant cultivar status? I have two in mind that I think are complex moorei crosses. Moorei crosses can be nice but not outstanding. Both of these however, are stunning plants! I am interested to see what you guys think of these.