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    Quote (herenorthere @ Sep. 05 2003,04:36)
    My S. leucophylla does stay outdoors all year here in CT. But in late fall I sink the pot into a sheltered plant bed and cover it with > 1 ft. of pin oak leaves. But I pull the S. leaves and pitchers up so they are get more light. During the winter of 2001-2002, which never reached 0F, the plant stayed green through the winter, even in some of the exposed leaves.

    We had a lot of snow last winter and I now know to keep the snow from piling up because it melts in the sun and refreezes in the leaves. That creates a suffocating mound of leafy ice and I lost one of my pots of Bletilla striata orchids and nearly lost my S. minor. I'll rig up some kind of awning over the area this winter to keep things drier. The area is shared by several Sarracenias, potted hardy terrestrial orchids, fruit tree root stock and whatever else needs a sheltered, but outdoor winter home.[/QUOTE]
    This is very helpful. Thanks.

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    One thing I should have added is that I use pin oak leaves because they don't mat down. If you were to use maple leaves, for instance, they'd mat down and, not only lose their insulation value, but also suffocate whatever's beneath them. Oak leaves curl up a little in the fall and maintain that shape through the winter, so a pile stays pretty loose. I stir the pile up a couple times in the winter to keep the leaves from packing down.
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    Utricman,

    Winter conditions, slightly damp, and very cold hardy, was frozen down to -20F for a few days in a smaller pot than it is in now.

    Summer conditions as hot as I can get it but under 95F. Soil is peat and lots of sand. I have repotted to a 2 or 3 gallon pot to accmodate root mass. Light is what NY state gets which isn't very much for Sarracenia's as you and I know! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img]

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    Quote (nepenthes gracilis @ Sep. 05 2003,4:39)
    Utricman,

    Light is what NY state gets which isn't very much for Sarracenia's as you and I know! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
    New York state gets more sunlight (duration) in the Summer than Florida.

    On July 1st the sun is up 15 hours in NY.
    only 14 hours in Florida.

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    Yes but insolation is an important factor in which you have more of. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]

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    And the difference is even more notable as we head into fall, the time we're hoping for those big pitchers to grow. Even though the sun still shines for >12 hours now, only a few hours in the middle of the day have the high angle, intense sun the plants crave. The sun angle now is equivalent to early April.
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    Quote (nepenthes gracilis @ Sep. 05 2003,10:39)
    Light is what NY state gets which isn't very much for Sarracenia's as you and I know! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
    I think we are going off on a tangent here...besides, I am not sold on the the Light argument - yet. I lived 1 hour south of where I am now and had the most beautiful Sarracenias around, except for leucophylla.

    I don't buy that light is a factor in producing the large fall crop of pitchers. I think it certainly is a factor in producing coloration, but not in producing pitchers. Just look at the immature pitchers that Nepenthes Gracilis showed us in his/her pictures: they have already begun to produce the large fall pitchers.

    Nepenthes Gracilis: You did not tell us how wet you grow your plants in the summer. I am starting to think that S. leucophylla needs to be wet during the summer growing season in order for it to produce the nice pitchers.

    Any additional thoughts??

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    Hey Utric man, BTW I'm a man. Anyhow yes I belive this species loves to be wet myself. I got beautiful fall pitchers, and it looks like they are coming up again this year to put on a show I am hoping. I am repotting it to a shallower pot sometime I think, but I built a large capacity water tray in the greenhouse in which the water cna become quite deep, so far so good we shall se how the pitchers come up.

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