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    They are under 2 fluorescent tubes. One is a 24 watt cool white, and the other is a 40 watt full spectrum. The pot is 8 inches from the lights.

    Temperatures are between 65F - 85F. Humidity runs 70-90%. I did have a fungus problem on the Drosera intermedia "Cuba" seedlings in the same pot. Dragon 3336 WP did the job of removing the fungus.

    I have another pot S. flava a few weeks behind these. There are 20+ seedlings starting to grow.
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    Cool, thanks. I'll put them uder the fourescent lights.
    What's this dragon stuff? Fungicide? Can I use it one soil where seeds haven't germinated yet? I ask because my potting medium is starting to look frosted, and I worry it's going to kill my seeds.
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    Dragon 3336 WP is the same thing as Cleary 3336 WP, which is available through pft. However, it comes in a more concentrated form and you have measure it youself. The Cleary 3336 WP from pft, is ready to add to one gallon of water.

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    It will not prevent or control damping off. It will keep the seeds from molding.
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    Nick brings up a good point regarding use of fungicide with Sarracenia seedlings, though he may be a bit off base he has the right idea.

    Regardless of product name, though different fungicides have different reasons --you want to use fungicides for all seedlings.
    Sarracenia have a built in defense against fungal attacks, ant the seed is tough. Once sprouted they use this defense up and pre-treatment is really the best defense.
    A high rate of failure comes with the seed sprouting and then damping off due to various fungal attack. A good basic fungicide to apply as a drench (about 1 oz per inch of pot) is the old stand by "Captan WP 50" WP stands for wettable powder for all fungicides. Captan can still be found at most independant Garden/nurseries, it is a excellent contact fungicide and cheap. Apply this with your seeds, and then spray them with it after they germinate at 10 day intervals, to cover the soil. Watch the amount you use regardless of fungicide used as too much will do great harm. Avoid using petro based fungcides on very tender young seedlings, always locate a WP=wettable powder for this and mix with water.

    It can't be overstated that the most often cause of failure with seedlings is damping off after sprouting.

    In general a good fungicide program should be taken up for all of your cp as they go down to fungal attacks more than any other best. Rotating the fungicide is a smart choice too. Clearys is simply a brand name. The chemcial is called Thiophanate methyl, and this fungicide is sold under a host of names as the patent as expired. But simply using the same chemcial over and over is a no go and expensive. You see fungus are smart and every time you spray some, a few live and the next time you spray the ones that live are immune and breed more that are immune. Captan is really good as it kills the fungal spores on contact and they can not get immune, they dry out like a fungus you would see growing between my toes now <HAHAHA>, which I will spray with a human fungicide!!!! But captan isn't for all fungal problems, however it is excellent for seedlings and has been for years.


    Ofen seedlings will die off after growing well for a month or 2 due to damping off diseases, which are too complex to try to name, but using a fungicide at recomended dose will help let the seedlings grow.

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    Cool

    I know you all hate me saying this sort of thing, but has anyone tryed breeding for more resistent plants or how about people who have no plants get seeds, wash seeds well and then place the seeds in soil? Do these seeds do better? Does environment make a large difference? I'm not being puffy, I'm just asking questions to get more info and/or make other people ask themselves questions [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] Sometimes new ways of trying things can be the best medicine, like those immue fungies lol!
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