Yipee! I went and looked at my pot of s.gulfensis today and lo and behold 2 seedlings! Guess I didn`t kill them all with damp off! So out of the 1000`s of seeds spec so generously sent me I know I got at least 2 to sprout! I`m so happeee! thank-you spec! Hay 2 is all I realy wanted anywho. Btw. spec if you`r reading this do ya` want that u.livida portion I promised ya`/ I haven`t heard back from ya`.