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    That is a fine looking oreo. I agree that it is an oreo, although I do admit there are some flava-esque characteristics. However, there is a good article in the most recent CPN showing how variable oreophila can be. It's also amazing to me to see how far along peoples plants are. I am now in N. Wisconsin, without a greenhouse, and am still waiting for the first flower to open on anything. Looks like I'll have about 5-8 days more to wait for a catesbaei to open.

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    Thanks, Tony! Sometimes I forget myself. I am glad these Forums are around to keep my head on straight. It's tough gettin' old!!!!!
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    Hey folks,

    Bugweed...hehe PM me sometime [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]

    Anywho, I was pretty certain it was S. oreophila but when it first pichered many folks questioned it. And the background on the plant (The restoration project) made me positive it was pure oreo. Michael said to me when he handed me the plant with the phyllodia on it still, "this is the best characteristic to tell the plant from flava."

    Clearly a very confusing plant! Thanks for the ID though! Carl also told me that my plant is the most regal form he's ever encountered. He said it was better looking than the oreo "Don Schnell" cultivar! lol Too bad location or history is not available on it...perhaps once Mike gets situated with his new wife and move I can get more info on it.

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    Hi Dustin,
    Beautiful oreo. I love the heavily veined form. I've only seen a few different clones: its the only Sarr. species we don't have, and the only way to grow it here in south Fl is to give it a mid summer dormancy! Based on your description of the phyllodia, flower habit, and the source, you bet its the real deal!

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    No doubt it is an oreophila, no dipping peristome at the front, the column can be more narrow and the sickle shaped phyllodia is a give away. The flowers should be smaller than flava
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    Hi guys, many thanks for the comments!

    I never would have questioned the parentage of this plant if it weren't for the quesitoning of others in the past! I am just very happy to know it is indeed S. oreophila.

    Mike, yes now that you mention it the flowers are noticably smaller than my flava's!

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    Oreo can be very variable. Some colonies in NC actually look very much like S. rubra [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif[/img]
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    You have to forgive Tony...he loves to BONK people. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

    I'm faarrr from any expert but I too was wondering about the curl of the lid and the sleekness of the tube. Seems so...flava. My oreo has a fuller tube and not so much curl, although definitely the C-phyllodia. I guess it would be a dull CP world if we didn't have such variation amongst species to make us stretch and wonder...

    Really a stunning plant Nep G! Great photos. If you have Photoshop, you might want to run them through and lighten them up a bit. Digicams tend to make dark pics sometimes.
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