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    Well gang with my new sidekick, the C-750, I have some more photos of my S. oreophila "heavily veined" form. I am pretty sure it is it now that I see these photos but would like mroe input. Now I belive we can make a true affirmative ID of this plant with excellent quality photos I shall present.

    The first 5 photo groups are all of the S. oreophila "heavily veined" plant.










    I think that angle of the lid is around 80* which is what I here S. oreophila lids are oriented that way.

    Here are the flowers of S. flava var. flava ( 1st pic) and the oreophila (2nd pic)





    Any input is greatly appreaciated! Thanks!

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    [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img] Did you post those oreophylla pics just to tease me about my loss? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img]

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    Do oreophilla grow best in full direct sunlight or shadier types of areas? Because mine grow pitchers but the top never forms into a lid and the opening stays half open and turns brown in a couple of weeks. I've come to a conclusion that it might be because the plant is concentrating more on developing roots than growth. I got the plant from Dean as a cutting of the rhibozome with almost no roots.
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    Those certainly are nice photos of a nice plant. Although, I doubt that it is actually S.oreophilla. If I were to guess, I would have to say that it is a flava from NC/SC. Your third image clearly shows the back of the pitcher. Oreo lids should never curl around to the back of the pitcher to such an extent. Although the color pattern of your plant is very typical of oreo, I've seen similar plants of S.flava from the NC/SC area. Still a very nice plant.
    imduff

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    I agree with imduff, although it has some oreophila characters. the column lid is just too narrow to be pure oreo, I would guess a flava x oreophila.
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    Hi folks, So far the ID is pretty even right now I've had Carl Mazur, Mike king, Mike Catalani (whom gave it to me) tell me they were darned sure it was an oreo. And now I have imduff and gardenofeden almost level out the balance... This plant was originally going to be used in an oreo restoration project, this very plant was going to be introduced to a bog where oreophila orignally was but the plan never got passed so I was the recipiant of the plant from Mike. (I mean would they really use a hybrid for a RESTORATION project?) I read the ICPS newsletter and it fits most of the characteristics for more oreophila than flava, like the flower stalks are always taller than the pitchers, the lip spout is quite absent or moderately exaggerated. I suppose only way to tell would be genetic testing perhaps with some chromotography paper!

    Certainly a very mysterious plant right now. The phyllodia are like "C" shapes that touch the soil in the pot to....that is what Mike said truely ID's an oreo....so i dunno.....




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    Nep G, You most certainly have an oreophila. No doubt about it. I guess some folks don't know how colorful an oreo can get, much less hood characteristics, phyllodia shapes, flowers and all that. I have 3 different color forms of oreo, and they are, each plant, different slightly from the one before. One heavily veined throat, one moderately veined in red, not purple, and a third that is hardly veined at all. The heavily veined throat and inner tube does remind me of my S. flava var. ornata, but the other differences in the leaves are also obvious. Nep, You definitely have Sarracenia oreophila, heavily veined form, and any time you are willing to give a cutting off your plant to add to my small stand, I'll take it. Perhaps in trade for a Schnell's Ghost? And Nep, I'd believe the ID from Carl, Mike K. and Mike C. We all know our oreo's!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Bugweed @ May 05 2004,8:58)]any time you are willing to give a cutting off your plant to add to my small stand, I'll take it. Perhaps in trade for a Schnell's Ghost?
    First part good...

    Second part NO GOOD Bad Bugweed!!! No trade S. oreo. Bonk BOnk BONK

    and one more for good measure...

    B O N K



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