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    The seedlings will get smothered if you use live moss I've found. For the first couple of years I tried sarracenia seedling I had to pluck out the excess moss every month or so, which was very fiddly!
    So I now stick to moss but with a thin layer of peat on the top.

    Giving the seeds constant cold in a fridge will let you stratify them in 4 or 5 weeks, the minimum length possible really. You could do a mixture, keeping some outside and letting them germinate naturally in spring and stratifying some in the fridge and starting them inside under lights.

    I would put the seedlings out when the average max temperature is about 15 or 16C. Say during late April. They're pretty tough anyway.
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    Just to clarify... peat on top of live moss, or dead moss? How much moss should I cover?
    And yeah, I think I will do some indoors and some outdoors, just to cover all my bases. Will my indoor seedlings get upset if they go from the fridge to my mid-70's apartment without any transition?
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    The peat can go on either live or dead moss. I would just put a very thin layer on top, just so that you can't see any of the moss so that it can't grow again.

    I'm a bit confused by you saying your seedlings are in the fridge?
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    Hmm....so I have maybe 1 week left?
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Alvin Meister @ Dec. 18 2004,5:12)]I'm a bit confused by you saying your seedlings are in the fridge?
    I mean, if I stratify the seeds in the fridge, and then start the seedlings under lights in my warm apartment, will the rapid change in conditions harm them?
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    Never bothered mine. They will take time to acclimate to their conditions, then pop and grow. I put mine from the fridge, onto a heated seed pad. They come up when they are ready to come up, usually 4 to six weeks.
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    Good to hear. So what kind of container do you use on top of the seed pad, Bugweed? I was thinking about getting one of those little germinating kits with peat pots and the little greenhouse and heating pad, and using the peat and greenhouse to start some sphagnum while putting the heating pad beneath some regular containers and drip trays.
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    An undrained rectangular container with a clear plastic top. Seals fairly well. Rheostat set at 85 degrees at the base. Soil (straight peat moss) 2" deep and 75 to 78 dgrees at 1/2 inch depth. Red lid alatas, and oreophila are in, planted in September. Bottom heat really gives them a shot in the behind, so to speak. You can grow sarracenia seeds straight through for 2 winters from seed without ill effects to the plants. 3rd winter absolutely must have dormancy, or you may lose plants. They will mature earlier from this treatment, blooming anywhere from 3 to 5 years instead of the usual 5 to 7 years. Bottom heat gives them a real push to gain size. I have had many species anywhere from 10" to 14 " tall in one to one and a half years. A friend of mine in Texas uses the same method, and at the beginning of the year, sent me an alata "black pubescent" form from Mississippi. On arrival, after one years growth, the alata was 14" tall. By the end of this growing season, it is hovering around 18" to 22" tall. I expect flowers in two years.



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