What I used to like about the ICPS seedbank, was the location information on the seed packet. You used to know where every plant came from. And it was easy to keep different locales apart when seeding as you knew where they came from, and didn't mix bogs. John doesn't give locations, and probably wouldn't if he had the locations. Tre, send him seed with locale info, and see if that information gets to the seed bank, on the list. I wonder if John will even bother. Next time I see John, we need to have a talk. I would buy species according to location as I knew what to expect, and the suprises I would get. Today, a plant species is listed without so much as a how do you do. WHERE did it come from? Which Bog is this plant associated with? With what they give now, you will never know. The oreos are still oreos, the alabamensis has their location codes, but where in the heck did the flava come from? And the psitts, and rubra's? I want more than just a plant species. The color diversity just isn't there anymore, because you have NO idea what you are getting, or where it comes from. I myself, NEED that information. A leuco from Tate's Hell Swamp, is vastly different than a leuco from Perdido, Baldwin County, Alabama. Start listing the locales, and I will buy seed, and even donate location seed. Getting John to do it, is another story.