S. oreophila

[nepenthes gracilis]

This is my pride and joy!

I'm thinking....cultivar status?

 

[Trent]

Dustin, it looks like it's still a young plant. The best coloration is yet to happen. Have you seen flowers yet?

 

[nepenthes gracilis]

Oh yes Trent, lots of flowers, about 6 this year....thats what I was wondering also, biggest pitcher on it this spring so far is 1 foot. It has alot of potential!

 

[Bugweed]

I love it, NG. Looks good in my collection. It is a welcome addition to the usual drab looking oreo's you usually find. Still, the red throats, and the purple topped-purple throats are still hard to come by. Eventually they should come my way, but its been a long wait.
One other thing. Mine is getting 11 hours of sun per day. A nice purple flush appears to building up on 2 of my oreophilas. One of the plants is the heavily veined form of NG's. Should be interesting to see what happens, if anything.

 

[LunaC]

Quote[/b] (nepenthes gracilis @ April 22 2005,9:45)]This is my pride and joy!

And rightfully so.  It's gorgeous! Thanks for sharing!

 

[Alvin Meister]

Very nice indeed!

Not cultivar worthy as it is just a heavily veined oreo at the end of the day. Sorry!

 

[RL7836]

How confident are you of the origin of this plant?

With the throat patch and the little 'flava' tip on the front of the pitcher lid, it wouldn't be a huge stretch to see this as a hybrid...

Just a thought...

(still a beautiful plant)

 

[brisco225]

Dustin, nice looking plant there! I absolutely love the one you gave me last year, and I can't wait until the pitchers it is sending up open. Great looking plant!

 

[pond boy]

Very nice! Mine is "green" and has just developeing pitchers already nearing a ft.!

 

[Bugweed]

Ron, the ID on this plant is 100% accurate. NG was given the plant by one of the most knowledgable men in CP on the subject of s. oreophila. That would be Mike Catalani. Smart fella. He has even written that leaf is not how you judge the oreo. Their are soooo many similarities in the leaf, that judging a plant by leaf is not a good idea. He seems to think that flower height is the key. Oreo leaves are supposed to be taller than their flower, and flava, vice versa. However, I find fault in this assuption as well because my s. oreophila had flowers taller than the leaves on one plant, and shorter than the leaves on another. So another good theory out the window because of these plants inability to read. It is an s. oreophila, but the accuracy of telling the difference between s. oreophila and s. flava, is still up in the air. I do know the plant came from DeKalb County, Alabama. No s. flava there, so it is a good bet the plant is s. oreophila. You should have one in your collection. I will see if I can help.

 

[Alvin Meister]

Well I find flavas have shorter flowers than the pitchers!

It looks 100% oreo to me anyway. The shape of the nectar roll and the height of the neck are classic.

 

[Kirkscoastalcarnivores]

I love it! mine is also my pride and joy when it comes to sarracenia, it flowered this year, here's a photo:

as for the ID, I am positive it is oreophilla the person who gave it to me grew it from ICPS seeds

 

[nepenthes gracilis]

I never knew what kind of a wonderful S. oreophila I was getting when Mike handed me that plant. The truth it is pure oreo as well is that it was going to be used in a restoration attempt, but something happened, and Mike wanted to give me a special treat for coming all the way to Tenn. from NY. Its something I will have for the rest of my life, I assure you that. I will NEVER let the plant die. Its a lifetime gift, from a heck of a great guy.

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Quote[/b] ]Not cultivar worthy as it is just a heavily veined oreo at the end of the day. Sorry!

Gosh darnit....S. oreophila cv. Royal Reign sounded good too!

 

[Bugweed]

Well, Alvin, I could have that backward too. Been a while since I read his work. Just the same, my oreo's did not meet the criteria anyway.

 

[RL7836]

Quote[/b] (Kirkscoastalcarnivores @ April 22 2005,5:52)]...as for the ID, I am positive it is oreophilla the person who gave it to me grew it from ICPS seeds

As Bugweed mentioned, there is an excellent article by M. Catalani in the March 2004 CPN. For a reliable ID, you probably need to compare a number of traits (getting it from someone who knows the actual location helps to shortcut this process

)

Article: flower taller than pitcher = Sarracenia oreophila. Phyllodia shape is also supposed to be quite reliable. But as Bugweed notes - the flower vs pitcher height is not 100% either. The author was only able to visit 3 stands for the article.

The ICPS seedbank is an excellent source of seed (for what they have)

but I wouldn't make a definitive ID based on getting seed from there. There are just too many ways for mistakes to have been made along the way --- and anyone can send seed in...

 

[Kirkscoastalcarnivores]

Quote[/b] (RL7836 @ April 23 2005,10:37)]

Quote[/b] (Kirkscoastalcarnivores @ April 22 2005,5:52)]...as for the ID, I am positive it is oreophilla the person who gave it to me grew it from ICPS seeds

As Bugweed mentioned, there is an excellent article by M. Catalani in the March 2004 CPN. For a reliable ID, you probably need to compare a number of traits (getting it from someone who knows the actual location helps to shortcut this process  

)

Article: flower taller than pitcher = Sarracenia oreophila. Phyllodia shape is also supposed to be quite reliable. But as Bugweed notes - the flower vs pitcher height is not 100% either. The author was only able to visit 3 stands for the article.

The ICPS seedbank is an excellent source of seed (for what they have)

 but I wouldn't make a definitive ID based on getting seed from there. There are just too many ways for mistakes to have been made along the way --- and anyone can send seed in...

this year it flowered and the flower was in fact taller than the pitcher, the phyllodia all looked the same and curved backwards

 

[nepenthes gracilis]

Thats another real key, the phyllodia almost always give away S. oreophila. Mike said that was another key element, but not the single only one.

 

[ptfreelander]

That is a really gorgeous oreo, NG.

The two I'm growing (the only two I've managed to come by), are more "normal," green with some red veining, squatty pitchers.

Very nice plant!

- Patrick

 

[shokuchuu]

Wonderful plant NG!

Doesn't S. oreophila have a slightly different seasonal habit? According to some texts and personal observations, they start going dormant in mid-late summer, when it's still hot and muggy. Am I completely out of date on this information or does it still apply?

Cheers

Amori

 

[ptfreelander]

From my experience with my 2 oreo clones, they only pitcher in late April/early May, and by June the leaves are browning. Obviously, compared with alata, rubra, leuco...this is an early season.

My flavas don't necessarily pitcher later, but they tend to hold their leaves longer than oreophila.