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    Mine (purps) are in a minibog sitting in full sun in Florida. I have drainage holes about 2 inches from the top of the soil. For the most part they are wet all the time. The only problem I did have was when the bog dried a little and fire ants moved in. Still haven't fully recovered from that but should be ok.
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    LauraZ5 This may be off subject, but you said you started using RO/DI water recently due to the water bans? Is it your system or are you getting it from work or something. The reason I'm asking is because if there is a water ban then your waisting alot of water using the RO unit.:: They are not eficient at all in the ammount of waste water spent out. LauraZ5 I would also try misting your plants during the day with cool or cold water to help bring the temps down. Try it on one plant. Orchid folks do it all the time to cool aff plants in extreme heat. Not many orchids can taker full sun like Sars can so I figure if it works for chids then it should work for sars to cool them off. I have my sars in full sun next to a privacy fence. They are sitting in an old pizza dow tray sitting atop of two 5 gallon buckets. I drilled a hole about an inch or so up to drain excess water and everything seems to be doing fine. I haven't been growing to long, but the tray has only dried out a few times since setting it up. Am I asking for touble? The only thing I do realy is filter out the water every few days because it seems to attract mosquitoes and I hate those things and I'm afraid to try adding anything to the water to keep them from giving birth there. I just run the water through an OR towel I have out there and put the same water back in minus the bug larva.
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    Hey Josh, It's pretty bad here. We got an eighth of an inch of rain yesterday and it evaporated before it hit the ground for all practical purposes and then the last rain we got was about a quarter of an inch well over a week before that. Other than that, no rain since May 12th... and none forecasted in the next two weeks.

    People's wells are going dry left and right and you can see the contractors out there re-drilling all over the place. Three now in my neighborhood alone and that's less than 30 homes. We went dry last year with that 12 week drought so we already re-drilled. Very costly and our well was only 3 years old. I fried out the pump to the well because I was out there trying to water plants and didn't know the well was dry. That was another lovely added expense. Currently, our water pressure is poor, very poor. I watered my new native trees/shrubs and other native herbaceous perennials using the water from the kids' swimming pool. Kids were not happy. When that 3500 gallons was gone, I ordered a tanker for home and am getting ready to order another one. My oldest son does water trees in the yard and in my little orchard using the garden hose on Sundays but we won't let him water more than 3 hours and no more than 5 minutes per tree. Last weekend, he took it upon himself to water several of my CP bogs with well water that is testing at 268 parts per million. Oh I about had a heart attack as there is no way to flush out anything recessed into the ground. First time that happened and it will be the last.

    In addition to all the bans (never did understand why people bothered watering their lawns anyway as they just go dormant and bounce back with rain), several water mains broke in the area so there are boil orders in effect and in other areas there are boil orders thanks to the geese and deer feces leeching into the water table so needless to say, the shelves are wiped out of both RO and distilled water and people are calling around to find out when the trucks are coming to deliver more so they can be there to get it. I was one of those people.

    I bought the RO unit. It is mine. RO is not efficient at all and RO/DI is even less efficient. I currently am bypassing the DI phase. My husband placed some sort of a little plastic valve on the discharge tube to slow down the discharge and build up pressure in the unit to pump out more water. The unit is set up at my office (Lake Michigan water) and I am lugging the water home in my car every single day. I have the RO water emptying into a 50 gallon barrel and the discharged water emptying into another barrel. I use some of the discharge water to fill up my birdbath at work. I also have a neighbor from another office who has a birdbath and she comes over and gets the discharged water for her birdbath which is also placed outside her office window like mine. The birds are having such a tough time that we see them in the gutters of roofs in the morning trying to drink condensation. Our building maintenance is using the rest of the discharged water. Gosh, I hope everyone who is using RO units is not wasting the dishcarge water as it is perfectly fine for most landscape plants as well as birdbaths and all you have to do is collect it.

    Regarding my RO/DI unit, even city water is losing pressure now and is down to 55-60 psi so we just ordered an Aquatech 8800 Booster pump for the RO unit which should push the psi to 70-110 to enable it to produce more water. I have a need for 25 gallons a day. On days when the temps are high, the need is greater. Although rated for 100 gallons a day, my unit is barely able to produce 25 right now. So, my husband is picking up supplemental distilled water for me from where ever. At least we aren't out there trying to buy distilled water 100 gallons at a time anymore and comparing notes over the phone of which retailer is out and who has it.

    What is an OR towel? I have no issues with mosquitoes. I use the dunks you can buy at Home Depot. You can break the dunks down to smaller pieces to use in birdbaths and other water features. I promise you they will not hurt your CPs. It might be a time saver for you to use them as they last a good 45-60 days. Here's a thread where they were discussed-
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    Back to misting, I started misting the plants after the sun went down a few days ago in an attempt to increase the relative humidity around the plants. I am afraid to do it during the day because as you mentioned, orchids aren't in full sun and Sarrs are. I haven't been growing CPs all that long either so I don't know if you are in trouble or not by having let your tray dry out a few times. Even when my trays are bone dry, the medium is still nice and damp so maybe I should have clarified. My medium has never been allowed to dry out. I have stopped using 6" pots though. With this heat and me being gone during the day, I found they were drying out a little too fast for my liking. The 8" and 10" pots seem better capable of withstanding the trays drying out during the day without the medium drying out. My plants are on concrete as well as up on some sort of concrete sills. The brick is light colored as is the siding on the home so I have an ideal patio for growing these plants in that they aren't heating up from anything radiating heat back at them. The other thing is that the patio is in full sun and is a wind break so that is reducing the rate of evaporation. I could be in worse shape.

    Everyone all together now! Let's do a rain dance for the flora and fauna out my way! Speaking of which, the deer are coming in close to my house. I have found their little hoof tracks up to two of my preform ponds. Ugh.

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    yeah the water levels in sarracenia fields/bogs flucuate with the rains. sometimes you'll get up to your knees and sometimes it's very firm and nice to walk on.
    crunchy even.

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    Don't worry Laura. Everything will be fine. George the Second has determined that Global Warming and its' possible effects are not a problem.

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    You're right Bob. Forgive me for being foolish. No need for me to worry at all. We silly whacked environmentalists who over react and start jumping to conclusions… belief in global warming is nothing but a by product of mass hysteria perpetuated by people who do not have two neural cells to rub together.

    Oh my gosh Bob, you better sit down for this one- Humans’ use of chemicals has NOT contributed to the ripping apart of our protective ozone layer.

    I won't be commenting further lest I blow a gasket so in an attempt to resume regular programming...

    To mist my Sarrs at high noon or not? That is the question. Seriously, I'd like to know what you think. I really think they would be best served by being misted somewhere in the afternoon. I have begun to mist them after nightfall so I go out there in my bathrobe and walk around spritzing here there and everywhere armed with a flashlight and my spray bottle. I feel like an absolute idiot.

    My concerns about watering during mid day are that the majority of the water would evaporate but not before being magnified by the sun leaving scorch spots on the pitchers. Maybe I could spritz early morning and after nightfall? I don't know. All I know is that I have some pitchers that are nice and crispy brown on plants that were otherwise healthy.

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    Hey LauraZ5 I would mist during the day to help cool the plants, but remember that your misting not watering. If you get buildup of water droplets on the plants your doing more than misting. Thats what I was told by orchid folks anyways. You want the evaporation thats what aids in cooling, but you dont want to mist so much you get water spots thats called watering, or so I'm told.

    Just to touch onthis subject. I don't know one way or another if what we are doing to the environment is causing "Global warming". I'm not going to comment either way, but I will say this. We as humans have not been recording history long enough to know if this is a natural cycle or not either. I have noticed it has been colder for longer down here in GA too. And at the moment I don't think its as hot as it normaly is for this time of year. I haven't checked, but we havn't hit over a hundred yet and personaly I think thats strange. Is it our cars and things? I duno. Personaly I think its less about the chems and more about less trees and more people, but thsta my opinion. Although I have read someplace that most of our oxygen comes from the great seaweed beds and not trees. Hey I'm not a scientist. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_n_32.gif[/img]
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    I have a fogger. I wonder if I could use that? At this point, I am seriously considering removing them from full sun on days where the temps are 90F in the shade. The other thought is to stake up a 40% reduction screen over the entire patio. Won't my husband love that!

    Does anyone put rainwater in their pitchers to help keep their plants hydrated? Does this help or does it just make one feel as if they are "helping".

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