Well I found the Tortrix Moth larva... i had a Capensis in an individual pot sitting between my 2 large pots which had damage on both sarrs. I moved it to the ground away from the pots the other week and I hadn't seen damage since. There was a small tight web at the base of the plant.. pulled it apart and there was the small green lava... so small... it did a ton of damage. Thanks for the info