It means the length of the shell. There are several technical boundaries, and I learned them from being a HARD-CORE herpetologist.(as a hobby, not profession) For some reason you are allowed to keep the turtles if you have bred them, if you document the fact that you bred them yourself. Just my $0.06 [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]