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    In other words..."Bigga" is "Betta"! LOL! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    They do not NEED filtration it is to optional. Who told you that its a must ? In the pet stores they keep them in small 8 oz cups till they sell .

    The fish would be more happy with a filter but its not a must..

    Take a look at this set up this person uses a plant with the fish http://www.thepondgarden.homestead.com/Bettain....e> id='postcolor'>

    I have thought long and hard about my response to this... and many people are going to be offended, and I would like to say it is your right to be, however I think what I am about to say is important and must be said.

    West... when you have a clue what you are talking about then you can argue... until then... don't bother saying anything.
    I typo, therefore I edit.

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    I have to agree with Maehem on this one.. I've kept Bettas for quite a while and yes, they can "survive" in a cup but it's not good for them. Every internet search I've done comes up with the same information all supporting this. Most people say a 5gallon tank is ideal for Betta.. filtration included. When you look at all those Betta fish in their little cups at the pet store they aren't happy or active. Put them in a tank and they are completely different fish.. curious, active, energetic. How would you like to spend your entire life in a shower stall? walking in circles and having a few bits of food thrown to you once in a while? That's what life would be like in that little cup.
    They aren't in puddles year around either. It's a temporary situation and while yes, they can survive it.. they don't thrive in it!
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    Quote (Maehem @ Nov. 05 2002,06:14)
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    They do not NEED filtration it is to optional. Who told you that its a must ? In the pet stores they keep them in small 8 oz cups till they sell .

    The fish would be more happy with a filter but its not a must..

    Take a look at this set up this person uses a plant with the fish [URL=http://www.thepondgarden.homestead.com/Bettainabowl.html[/QUOTE]

    I have thought long and hard about my response to this... and many people are going to be offended, and I would like to say it is your right to be, however I think what I am about to say is important and must be said.

    West... when you have a clue what you are talking about then you can argue... until then... don't bother saying anything.[/QUOTE]
    Maehem I dont have a clue? HA ok well im going to make this reply now Id like to see you try to shut me up ... Your saying everyone is wrong the pet stores are wrong when they tell you that you dont need a filter ..My friend who has this kind of fish with no filter for 3 years he is wrong 2 huh .... And hey even that guy who made that site I posted he is liar 2 huh ?


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    http://www.meijer.com/pet/fish/betta.asp puts filter Optional key word here OPTIONAL
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    http://www.tropical-fish.net/Betta/bettafaq.htm

    Do I need a filter?
    Although Bettas can take their water a little harsher than most, if you do not have your Betta in an aquarium with the filter running, change about 50% of the water in your Betta bowl weekly, with water you have either treated, or you have left to stand for 24-48, if taken from the tap. Although Bettas have a higher tolerance to stagnant water (they come from rice paddies in southeast Asia), water changes and water chemistry management will help keep your Betta beautiful and to live for a much longer period of time.
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    Theres another site that says A filter is not a must .

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    http://www.elmersaquarium.com/H102FishBowl2gal.htm

    puts that its allso a Option for a Fish bowl pump and filter set

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    http://home.earthlink.net/~miawoodma.../bettacare.htm

    Filtration: Though Betta's can live with no filtration and little aeration, they would rather it.


    They allso put they CAN live with no filtration


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    This fish is not going to drop dead from no filter it is NOT a must it is a Option.



    Maehem next time you speek get your facts right or dont even bother to post .


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    Quote (carnivorous23 @ Nov. 03 2002,7:52)
    Alright, West, if you want to defend the practice of putting them in tiny bowls, fine. But, I'm pretty against it.

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    Here's a few more links then. Personally, I see the way bettas are kept in pet stores as extremely bad for the fish.

    http://www.practical-pet-care.com/ar...iew.php?ver=53
    http://www.bettastarz.com/bettafacts.htm

    The second site states that the water should be changed between every 3rd day to once a week, and that seems to be about how often most sites say that the water must be changed in those little bowls. Remember, changing water is EXTREMELY stressful to fish. They are caught in a tiny net, put in different water, in a strange environmtent, and before they can even realize what is happening, they are caught again, and put back into the same bowl. NOT something you want to do to them to often. Please, for the sake of the fishes comfort, use live plants, a larger tank, and filtration.
    In my opinion, a tank that is set up well, is one large enough, and with enough plants, that it has to be changed less than once every couple of months (I've got mine set up so they never need to be changed, but that requires few fish, and many plants, in a decent sized tank). The water quality before the change, and the change itself, can almost be seen as torture for the fish. I mean, the whole experience must be like being abducted by aliens is for a person. When it has to be done, it has to be done, but no reason to do it often. Easier to set up a good tank, for both the people involved and the fish.[/QUOTE]
    I do not defend putting them in tiny bowls and cups I think they should be put in a bowl/tank atleast 3 gal . I do not agree with the pet stores keeping them in cups .

    And about the water changing I agree it dose stress the fish but filter or not it must be done . I had a fish that lived 6 years (not a betta) I had him in a 10 gal tank and did a 1 cup water change every day . This fish did great and was fat and healthy.

    One other thing I will add is chlorine It will dissipate overnight but the new additive that water companies have started using will not. It depends on the water in your area .

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    Just because it isn't dropping dead, doesn't mean it isn't hurting the fish. Look at it... in those little bowls they can barely move... their muscles will atrophy, causing long term damage. It's like being locked in a room, unable to exersize. The fish spends its ENTIRE LIFE just sitting there.

    And for anyone with little experience with fish, a filter is a must, otherwise the water conditions can go downhill extremely fast (the sites mentioning putting it into a bowl say to change the water every 3 days to a week, so if anything odd happens, the water can get bad even faster than that, meaning they very well might drop dead from no filter, unless you know what you're doing, and are VERY careful).
    Just because some websites say it is okay, and the fish will live, does not mean it is a good thing.

    And yes, everyone in the pet stores doing that is wrong. They keep them in smaller tanks than the fish is comfortable in, in order to be able to sell more.
    Personally, I boycott any petstore doing that. If they want to find suckers, they don't need my business.

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    Hey Maehem here you go

    http://petfish.net/cgi-bin....5819493

    Everyone there says put your filter in the trash it bugs the bettas and creates stress . GO FIGHT WITH THEM [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    They say for under five gallons, and again, expect you to change the water once a week, or more often. That creates more work for you, more stress on the fish, and means if you forget, you will likely have one sick or dying fish.

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