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    I don't know what a compact MH is.... but this these are what I was talking about. You would save a bundle if you retrofitted your own, but I'm too lazy to do that.

    http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewIt...n~vendor~.html
    http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewIt...ct~SL2111.html

    I won't use MH. Too hot. And I don't have a reef. I HAD a reef five years ago :P Yes, the LR is expensive but that's the best that gulfview offers (and I LOVE gulfview). Shipping alone is 80-90 dollars, but 30 pounds overnight isn't cheap.

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    You only need that kind of lighting with corals and inverts. If you're going with a fowlr (fish only with live rock) then all you need is a few watts depending on the size of the tank.

    I'm getting a 65 watt 50/50 light setup for the 29 gallon saltwater.
    This one.....
    http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewIt...s~vendor~.html
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    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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    What's the point in FOWLR unless you want to have something that eats coral? Fish are boring, I think. No offense or anything :P

    And so messy.

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    I have found that the smaller the tank, the harder it is to take care of. I went from a 55 gallon reef/fish to a 180 gallon reef /fish and believe it or not, aside from more husbandry, the water quality is easier to manage. Not to mention, it's a 180 GALLON REEF!

    I run 5 t12 vho, (3 blue two, daytime/white), and my all my softies seem love it. Most of my sps died, but a few of the more hardy ones are surviving. It's just not enough light for them. I'm planning on adding metal halide lights eventually, but for now my set up is working.

    I'll probably invest in a good skimmer down the road
    I would highly recommend a good protein skimmer for any sized reef system. And with skimmers, you get what you pay for. Spring the extra few bucks and get a good one.

    Oh yeah, never underestimate the importance of a good clean up crew and good live rock! The back bone of your reef.
    Here's to the first of the of the day fellas!! To old, D.H. Lawrence!!!!

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    JLAP I am just the type of guy who likes to invest a smaller sum of money get good results then pour more in I like fish but I'd very lightly stock the fowler I could very easily upgrade my lighting. Damsels and Clowns are what I'd keep since there hardy and atleast for the damsels not expensive. I have done lots of reading(Nano-Reef forums) so I have most of the terms and basics down This is what I meant by compact Mh lights : http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/items.asp...atus=0&Tp=&Bc=
    Not sure on the K value must be high with a Hortilux Blue.
    Could save some money buy buying a non reef lighting solution without cutting corners as long as the wattage,lumens and K value add up right.
    My dad says for his 55 gallon setup he had a ehieme filter ,a primitive(according to him)
    protein skimmer,heater,power head and thats about it(for equitment in the tank) he said coral were just coming into hobbyist hands
    On protein skimmers (I am not going to buy anything now later this year maybe when I graduate) I saw a few models in Dr foster and smith;the Coral Life that's around $110 seems nice http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...4&pcatid=13924
    Then more money :
    http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...12&pcatid=4412
    The Bak-PaK seems better like a mini sump for a heater and whatever. And add more water volume to a nano.
    Thats sorta a suggestion and a question at the same time JLAP

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    You're absolutely right. The larger it is, while more expensive overall, the easier it is to take care of.

    You're also right about the protein skimmer. Don't be cheap about it and if you can't afford a good one, don't buy anything at all until you've saved up your cash. NEVER skimp on the lighting or the protein skimmer. AND do your research. My first skimmer was a $150 SeaClone. It's what the pet store recommended and it was expensive, so it had to be good, right? Wrong. It turns out that most people won't take a SeaClone if you tried to give it to them. It's a glorified aerator (at best.) I got a TurboFloater 1000 and the difference was like night and day.

    As for the compact MH, that looks like what I light my terrarium with, and it's not compact at ALL! I'm REALLY re-considering MH. I think I'm going to splurge at pay $400 for the Current Outer Orbit, or get the Finnex 150 Mh (but only if I get the M-tank). I'm leaning towards the Outer Orbit between the two. I don't even like SPS. I ever have. I don't get what the fascination is with them. I just want it so I can have clams.

    The Coralife skimmer looks like you'd get what you pay for. The bak pak is OK. I had the Turbofloater 1000 on my tank, which was great. If you don't have a sumo, you'll have to get the multi. I'm a big fan of the Remora Pro when it comes to hang-ons.


    http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewIt...l~vendor~.html

    http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewIt...n~vendor~.html

    I'm telling you. Yeah, it's expensive, but it's worth it. If you half-butt it (some phrases REALLY lose their umph when they're modified .....) you'll have to work more at best, and fail at worth. Go ahead and spend the money. If you can't afford it, I urge you to save it up. It's worth it for the peace of mind.

    Consider buying it used. You can probably get a used one in perfect working condition for the same price as the cheap ones you listed.

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    I'm a big fan of the Remora Pro when it comes to hang-ons
    Not only am I the Remora Pro fan club president, but I'm also a client.
    Here's to the first of the of the day fellas!! To old, D.H. Lawrence!!!!

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    I've heard great things about the Tunze protein skimmers. There a little pricey, but as you guys said, its well worth it. I'll be geting one.

    Do any of you use actual "filters"? I've heard they can create more of a problem than a benefit.
    I'm going to be using a skimmer only, no filter.
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    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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