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    I want to do a setup and have money :)

    Well I want to d o a fowler but need some Door A or B questions
    So I was told on the reef central forums that the hot magnum is just told don't get it.
    So would a whisper 40($20 cheap filtration) for a 30 gallon with some biological media
    and maybe some floss be fine ? I do not want to do a protein skimmer since I will lighty stock it then convert to reef. I mean like a few fish(2 clowns,one goby and maybe something else a benny maybe with a CUC) not much since I want some zoas,shrooms and other inverts later. When I upgrade(before I get any zoas,corals or anything like that) then I'll get a skimmer unless I need it(up in the air do I need it since I will have a low stocking of fish) . Now the other thing Live Rock
    So they seem good the prices are good but I'd like some experiences they seem legit
    http://wholesaleaquaticsupplies.com/...7e8415cf689e5f

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    Personally I would want to provide the best possible living conditions for the fish; just because they can "tolerate" certain levels of nitrates doesn't mean they should be subjected to them. Better water conditions = happy fish and less risk of disease. If you're going to get the skimmer anyway just get it now .

    If you're looking for a HOB skimmer, check out the AquaC Remora - very nice, and used ones are always for sale on RC for decent prices. As for the live rock, I would buy the cheapest you can find from someone with a good rep, then cure it yourself, you can make use your new skimmer in the curing process

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    Your right about the skimmer just money is like a thing thats being pushed,
    I am already going to do weekly changes I could do a fuge by adding a pane of glass thats professionally cut then siliconed in then macro algae with $1 a pound LR rubble.
    The initial costs are the clenchers I could get 2 holes drilled then a power head to move the water around then I'm theorizing that the cheato will remove the nitrates then trim them back like my planted tank with 5 or so nitrates(theory not trying to be stupid or stuck up) I realize the concern since I'm reading the nitrates are to be next to nothing for no stress on fish. I may be able to get something skimmer wise that's used I just fear getting something online I'd rather meet someone in person then I'd feel better.
    I have heard alot of praise on the Remora and some good about the Back-Pack(not as good) My local LFS is under new ownership the new owner seems fresh,nice,knowledgeable and so on he may have something used that is good not a pickin sea clone or whatever. I could put an add in our south coast shopper for free so it's worth a shot.

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    If you can't afford something, save up and wait a few weeks or months until you can. Protein skimmers are not the place to be cheap. You'll just lose money in the long run when you upgrade, so you may as well get what's good right now. FOWLR need good skimming, more so than coral since coral doesn't really contribute to a bioload.

    Canister filters suck. Nitrate traps. The Magnum is fine for water polishing but should not be used as a filter. There's also no real fear in getting something online as long as the person is a prominent member of that forum. No more risk than anything else. At the end of the day, it's a piece of plastic. Not too much to go wrong.

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    Alright so there crap unless there used for freshwater .....
    Even the Principle of the school with her 12 gallon nano only had (from what I saw)
    Had 2 clowns,anemones like 2 small ones and a few shrooms had some biomedia and floss thats it so ya I want to stock my 30 with more than 2 clowns Besides with such a small tank water changes are easy unlike a larger 30 so thats my theorizing of why I need a skimmer. I don't really care about water polishing really I'll just use some pillow filler(100 polyester non fire retardant so no chems) thats fine
    Well I am going to sell my helicopter for parts for like $50 or so so I have like more cash but I'm going to spend $50 on 4 neps(I feel deprived of neps need a nep fix ) but well I'll keep saving then jsut order what I need without skimping. Live stock is like lots of money a nice CUC and some detriovores would be a costly loss plus the fish.

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    Corals may not contribute to the bioload much, but they definitely are more sensitive to water chemistry than most fish are. General rule of thumb is that reef tanks need to be skimmed more than FO - or you need to keep up on water changes. I wouldn't suggest to keep anemones if you're not going to have a skimmer or the lighting to keep them. It's not the norm for them to survive in less than optimal conditions.

    Adding a refugium is a good idea, try to avoid the invasive (illegal) cualerpa species.

    If you do decide to get a skimmer, you can usually find the Remora's used for under 100 bucks on RC. That's the skimmer I'd recommend if you don't have a sump.



    ... now who is going to school me up on keeping CP's? I live in Northern CA and would like to keep pitcher plants (and probably others) outdoors. Do-able? I don't even know where to start!

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    She has only 2 clowns she is just lucky
    She said they did go downhill they went all white but she started feeding them more and did some more attention but anemones are harder than corals from what I read she has no skimmer but she has a very low stocking of the 10 gallon and as I said before she is lucky. I may not do a skimmer keep a pretty darn low stocking rate with diligent water changes then when I want corals buy Mh and a remora since everyone likes them from what I've been hearing...
    On CPs sarracenia should be fine there is a nursery by San Fransisco that has them outside I believe. I have worse weather than you and I had mine out for some fo the tail end of winter.Someone living by you can fill you inn on there experiences on a new thread

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    From what people have told me (and what I plan on doing) you really don't need any type of mechanical filtration. All you need is the protein skimmer.

    All of the large particles that a mechanical filter normally takes out will eventually get broken down and cleaned up by the protein skimmer.

    I plan on purchasing a Tunze nano DOC 9002 skimmer, I've heard great things about them.
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    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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