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    Not Growing Up! GrowinOld's Avatar
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    I haven't had the time to review this entire thread,
    however I have certainly had my share of deceased plants over the years.
    For me, this thread has served as a reminder,
    that when we come across a naturally growing stand of CP's out in the wild,
    that we should leave them undisturbed.

    Other than the rare occurrences when a site is indeed in jeopardy and the plants need relocation,
    plants are better off left where they are and allowed to live out their lives as nature intended.
    There are more than enough plants available at affordable prices or for trade, so that there is no real need for the average person to be field collecting for their own benefit.

    In general, nature can handle giving plants the environment they need far better than any of us can.
    Nature is not "busy" with other things like work or school or distracted to where it forgets to water or give the plants the right amount of light.

    We all lose plants.... for whatever reason. So the next time you see a field of sundew or Sarrs in the local bog or while on vacation, enjoy them, then leave them for others to enjoy... or at least leave them so that their progeny may someday help to populate the natural stands in the future.
    I have lived long enough to see many natural stands of plants killed off, by selfish land use, draining of wetlands and poaching. Our natural environment needs all the plants it has, if there are to be natural CP sites in the future.
    So unless you know for sure that a group of plants are in danger because of negative environmental changes, leave them be. For as this thread shows, our taking plants in to our own care does not necessary mean their survival. Far from it!
    Cultivated plants are propagated for us to grow (or kill). So it is best for the CP's that we love to stick with those, and leave the natural ones to grow wild... as nature intended.

    Good luck all.
    Experience is the best teacher. At least it used to be.
    But then, common sense isn't so common anymore, is it.


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    Very motivational, GrowingOld.


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    N. glabrata



    N. ampullaria x talangensis



    N. jacquelineae

    Does anyone have any Nepenthes argentii x [(hamata x villosa) x (edwardsiana x hamata)]? I'm willing to trade for a mature flowering-size Drosera capensis.

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    I killed a large part of my Utric collection recently by keeping them in waterlogged soil for......a few months. The surface of the soil was covered in slime mold and was choking out my utrics and genlisea.
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    So what are my casualties from the cold or heat so far.. I had N.inermis from Talang die while I was gone on travel (for work) from presumably just a really hot day.. I killed two N.rafflesiana that were grown from seed (and omg were they nice ), I had to give away the N.ampullaria as well as several boxes of orchids. I have 2 Drosera paradoxa hybrids die (one when the inermis died) so now I'm down to just D.paradoxa and no hybrids. I have a Cephalotus 'Hummer's Giant' being devoured by mealies. I had a N.sp Doorman's Top #1 die on me not a month after getting it in a shipment from Germany, and randomly all my N.hamatas started looking like they wanted to abandon their growth points a month ago. The N.alata variegata and N.argentii wanted to abandon their growth points as well I guess I should take some photos for 'pics or it didn't happen' ..

    edit: crappy pics time. Oh! And I lost an S.oreophila this year

    N.tentaculata tried to abandon its growth tip too (from AW):


    the Ceph used to have tons of leaves in the center of the pot... they got destroyed by mealies. The white spots are melted mealies


    N.aristolochioides on abandoned growth tip attempt:


    N.clipeata clone 2, why are you pouting?


    N.alata variegata abandoning the main growth point and sprouting out of the side


    I think N.hamata is recovering..


    N.argentii recovering too I hope


    N.burbidgeae made a couple stupid leaves.. I hope it starts growing ok now?


    N.jacquelinae still looks like it doesn't want to grow. Maybe a repot to live sphagnum might help?


    D.paradoxa hybrid pot taking up room for no reason other than to be a place holder


    Why is this darlingtonia all dried up baby pitchers?


    D.adelae trying to commit dewy-cide


    roasted pygmy dews




    N.campanulata


    My N.macrophyllas never keep more than 3 leaves this is a clone from AW


    My ventricosa x hamatas look like this... on their growth points - why did you shrink?


    and N.hamata red hairy joined the regular hamatas in making puny little leaves though it may just be acclimating still?
    Last edited by thez_yo; 09-07-2011 at 09:08 AM.

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    :c

    I really love that variegated alata something fierce though.

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    Ugh tough to look at thez.

    Do you think these mealy's are moving around and contaminating different pots?

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    Greg: haven't seen them anywhere else on foliage or roots so I think they just have favorite plants - S.Judith Hindle, S.leucophylla, S.purpurea, Ceph Hummer's Giant and VFT Royal Red. Otherwise, nothing, strangely enough. But I'm just spraying *EVERYTHING* just in case, though I haven't seen bugs elsewhere. I check everything 2X a day and spray everything down the second I see even 1 bug if it's between the 2X weekly that I've been spraying

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrowinOld View Post
    I haven't had the time to review this entire thread,
    however I have certainly had my share of deceased plants over the years.
    For me, this thread has served as a reminder,
    that when we come across a naturally growing stand of CP's out in the wild,
    that we should leave them undisturbed.

    Other than the rare occurrences when a site is indeed in jeopardy and the plants need relocation,
    plants are better off left where they are and allowed to live out their lives as nature intended.
    There are more than enough plants available at affordable prices or for trade, so that there is no real need for the average person to be field collecting for their own benefit.

    In general, nature can handle giving plants the environment they need far better than any of us can.
    Nature is not "busy" with other things like work or school or distracted to where it forgets to water or give the plants the right amount of light.

    We all lose plants.... for whatever reason. So the next time you see a field of sundew or Sarrs in the local bog or while on vacation, enjoy them, then leave them for others to enjoy... or at least leave them so that their progeny may someday help to populate the natural stands in the future.
    I have lived long enough to see many natural stands of plants killed off, by selfish land use, draining of wetlands and poaching. Our natural environment needs all the plants it has, if there are to be natural CP sites in the future.
    So unless you know for sure that a group of plants are in danger because of negative environmental changes, leave them be. For as this thread shows, our taking plants in to our own care does not necessary mean their survival. Far from it!
    Cultivated plants are propagated for us to grow (or kill). So it is best for the CP's that we love to stick with those, and leave the natural ones to grow wild... as nature intended.

    Good luck all.
    Well said. Wild plants look better, too. When photographing these plants I prefer to use wild grown plants. They're bigger, more colorful, and have a special feel to them. I wild clump of S. flava that's 4 feet wide, or a thick colony of Drosera capillaris is something worthy of sitting down and admiring for a few long minutes.

    I do take small samples when I find a new location of particular plants when doing field work, but only if it's a large population, and I only take 3 small plants that aren't flowered or setting seed.

    I should post my Ping on here, it looks awful.

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    Thezzz I am sad seeing those pics.

    Hamata red hairy? That thing needs to be put in a terrarium with lights !

    Here's N. singalana 'Tujuh' I'm sure it's gone. I couldn't save it. I tried.

    Does anyone have any Nepenthes argentii x [(hamata x villosa) x (edwardsiana x hamata)]? I'm willing to trade for a mature flowering-size Drosera capensis.

    Immune to Rain.
    Growlist: http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=124586

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