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    You can go ahead and rinse them all the way off. I always do, just to freshen everything up a bit.
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    Jerry,

    I quickly read this thread and wanted to give my two cents. I would repot in the dead of winter or if needed early spring before much growth starts for best results. As long as the media is not completely frozen solid to the roots of the plant when removed from the pot just rinse somewhat softly with water (or you can let the soil attached to the roots remain and repot all of it into the new media. I've always used 1:1 or better in my opinion 2:1 Canadian Sphangnum peat moss : pool sand (found at a pool supply store) I've also used perlite in place of the sand but prefer sand for no good reason. Pool sand can be bought at pool supply stores. I like to stay away from watering with tap (mine is 99-105 TDS) constantly but used to when I ran out of rain water. I grew many plants for a long time on tap + 100 TDS that I consider hardwater but did flush with rain water. I mean I watered with rainwater intemittently. My opinion, if you have to use tap but try and use rain water in stages to reduce the hardness. I currently have three rain barrels and keep adding them as my collection grows because pitcher plants are sensitive to cations. Also try and beat 6 hours of direct sun in summer.

    If the plants have been in the same pot for 2 years, yeah repot, and that may be the issue. I agree with several above good posts. If you have a stagnant plant after meeting all of the requirements which in my experience are not completely necessary, it happens. I've been sent a few plants that just never took off for me and others that took over. If all of the plants are acting the same maybe change your water source, sun exposure, etc. If one is acting stale, it happens. I would repot atleast every two years or make divisions in winter or spring. The NASC auction is every spring and is a great way to add to your Sarracenia (or other) collection.

    Hope this helped. Good Growing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysmith View Post
    Not a Number mentioned mealy bugs. I have not noticed any on my plants. I grow cactus also and with them we can get Root Mealy Bugs right in the potting mix. Nasty critters. I suppose that would be impossible to get in wet boggy plants. Yes? No?

    Thanks all for your help.
    They'll get into the roots for sure and survive flooded conditions. Just because you don't see 'em up top doesn't mean they aren't there. This just happens to be a pot of S. 'Tarnok':

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    Not a Number: Wow!! and Ugh!! That is one ugly photo of your Tarnock. Did the plant survive? With my cactus I use a 2% Soap solution drench and sometimes mix in Malathion to kill Root Mealy Bugs. What do you do for CP?

    I made a video of my collection yesterday in lieu of a photo as it is easier for me at present. I did remove my Tarnock from the pot in the video and there was no evidence of Mealy Bug, but I did notice what may be a fungus on the pitchers of the plant. Could it be Rust?

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    I use bayer advanced with merit and just add to the water of my circ bog. It goes systemic and is harmless they say to humans. But there are other options too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysmith View Post
    Not a Number: Wow!! and Ugh!! That is one ugly photo of your Tarnock. Did the plant survive? With my cactus I use a 2% Soap solution drench and sometimes mix in Malathion to kill Root Mealy Bugs. What do you do for CP?

    I made a video of my collection yesterday in lieu of a photo as it is easier for me at present. I did remove my Tarnock from the pot in the video and there was no evidence of Mealy Bug, but I did notice what may be a fungus on the pitchers of the plant. Could it be Rust?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd7-zcfAczw
    Nice video of your plants, they all look healthy. As for the Tarnok, the spots you are seeing I think are quite normal for this time of year with older growth, mine look the same. If you look inside the pitchers, are there bugs piled up at these spots? I often see this same thing from bugs rotting in the pitchers and some will have actual holes where bees and yellow jackets try to chew their way out of the pitchers. This plant definitely needs to be repotted. I think you can wait until it has gone dormant later in winter to do this if you choose, but it would not harm it to repot now as I have transplanted many plants from pots to my bog this time of year with no ill-effect. You should see much better growth next year in a bigger pot, but these usually do not send up their best pitchers until late summer/early fall.

    I am far from an expert, only speak from personal experience. I can go out tomorrow and take some pictures of my 2 Tarnok and PM you if you would like a comparison? I have one small Tarnok taken out of a very small pot this year and planted in the bog and it has small pitchers also like yours, and the other Tarnok the same situation last year and you should see it now that it has had a whole growing season with room to grow, along with the brown spots you are seeing with yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysmith View Post
    Not a Number: Wow!! and Ugh!! That is one ugly photo of your Tarnock. Did the plant survive? With my cactus I use a 2% Soap solution drench and sometimes mix in Malathion to kill Root Mealy Bugs. What do you do for CP?
    I drenched it the day before with a solution of Bayer Advanced Complete Insect Killer. It's a concentrate with the same active ingredients as Bayer Advanced Rose and Flower Insect Killer. The directions lists a concentration that is 6x higher than the Rose & Flower for use on soil pests. I divided the plants and pressure washed the roots and all the nooks and crannies on the rhizomes with water from the garden hose. After repotting I drenched them again and once a month for the next 3 months. I drenched all my Sarracenia pots as a precaution. No apparent ill effects on the plants.

    So far no reinfestation (I pull the root ball out to check) since I treated them last year, but I doubt I'll ever be rid of them. If they come back I'll just toss the plants.

    Spots/holes on the pitcher tubes - usually a wasp or honey bee trapped in the tube. Wasps can survive long enough to chew holes in the tube and sometimes escape. And either the nectar or venom in the honey bee cause the burns - perhaps they may even sting the tube?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ57 View Post
    I am far from an expert, only speak from personal experience. I can go out tomorrow and take some pictures of my 2 Tarnok and PM you if you would like a comparison? I have one small Tarnok taken out of a very small pot this year and planted in the bog and it has small pitchers also like yours, and the other Tarnok the same situation last year and you should see it now that it has had a whole growing season with room to grow, along with the brown spots you are seeing with yours.
    I would like to see the photo's, but why not post them up here on this thread? That way others can see them too.
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    I was going to do that last night, but my camera's batteries were low and so would not transfer the pictures. I will have this resolved today and post them this afternoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysmith View Post
    I would like to see the photo's, but why not post them up here on this thread? That way others can see them too.
    Here ya go http://www.flickr.com/photos/enjoypi...142842/detail/

    I don't how you put pictures in posts, so have to direct you to Flickr. Can anyone help me with this?

    These are pictures of leucophylla 'Tarnok' older pitchers and how the bugs breaking down discolors the outside of the pitchers and makes it look like they have a disease.

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