Overseas trading

[RICHARD UK]

Can anyone tell me what needs to be done to send a plant (Sarracenia) from the UK to America? Ive never really tried a proper international trade before and was wondering how I should go about it or where I can get the proper info.

Many thanks,
Richard.

[Dionaea Enthusiast]

Hey Richard,
The only overseas trading I've done to date is sending(and happily receiving) seed to fatboy in Indonesia. I got mine alright, and I'm awaiting his confirmation on whether he gets his seed from me. I didn't do anything ususual, so I hope I didn't do anything illegal for that reason:), ie I hope I don't need some sort of permit or certificate. It may differ from country to country, as I'm in the U.S.
Hopefully, someone who does know will reply to this.
Chris

[Tony Paroubek]

The plant would need to be inspected for pests and diseases and then a phytosanitary certificate is issued. You may need a CITES permit (not sure if Sarracenia is listed on CITES or not). The person who is receiving the plant should send you a green/yellow import sticker to put on the package.
Tony

[Dionaea Enthusiast]

Tony, is that only for a plant, not seed? If not, I've already broken a few laws!

[Dionaea Enthusiast]

Oh and I think just S. oreophila, rubra ssp. alabamensis, and possibly rubra ssp. jonesii are CITES listed.
Chris

(Edited by Dionaea Enthusiast at 5:56 am on Jan. 21, 2002)

[Tony Paroubek]

I have not dealt with seed but if I recall correctly...Phytosanitary certificate is for plant material, not seed. CITES applies to plant material and seeds I think..
Tony

[trashcan]

11. * * * In accordance with Article I, paragraph b, sub-paragraph (iii),
* * * * *of the Convention, the symbol (#) followed by a number placed
* * * * *against the name of a species or higher taxon included in


* * * * *Appendix II designates parts or derivatives which are specified
* * * * *in relation thereto for the purposes of the Convention as
* * * * *follows:

* *#1 * *Designates all parts and derivatives, except:
* * * * *a) * * seeds, spores and pollen (including pollinia); and
* * * * *b) * * tissue cultures and flasked seedling cultures

Source: http://www.wcmc.org.uk/igcmc/convent/cites/cn_appx.html

To the best of my understanding, it appears that CITES does not cover seeds. Its possible I was confused by the technical mumbo-jumbo, so read for yourself.

Pat

[Alvin Meister]

You should be able to get it out of the UK no problem, but I don't know about American customs. You might want to try sending a Sarracenia seedling first and seeing if that goes ok.

[Tony Paroubek]

I am probably mistaken on CITES for seed from appendix II plants. I will have a look at it later today.
T

[RICHARD UK]

I'm Sure little bits can be sent/recieved no problem, but I was planning on sending something a little larger!
Where would I get the plants inspected? Do the same people issue the phytosanitary certificate? ?
Suppose this is gonna be more tricky than its worth!!