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[Gawd_oOo]

Quote[/b] ]i was wondering if the ping leaf has to have dew on it?

If you are asking that in regards to propogating them.

My limited experience has been. No.

Normally when I get a new plant, they come without 'dew', as I am plantig them, I'll take off a few of the lower leaves (or the ones that fell off during shipping) and toss them in my terrarium full of LFS, and they start forming new plants.. Using that method, I have not had any that didn't form plantlets.

Oh and from what I have heard, the non carnivorous leaves in winter are great for propogating.. This is my first winter them, so I haven't tried it yet.

[peanuts1gang]

hello everyone
i have a few questions about leaf cutting mexi pings
1. should the plastic bag be open, can i use tuppaware?
2. can i keep the plastic bag in my terrarium? (60-85% humidity)
3. do i have to use sphagnum moss, can i use peat moss?
4. does the whole leaf have to be touching the moss, how would i do if so.?
thanks alot for all your help

peanuts

[Gawd_oOo]

Again, from my limited experience:

1. See 2

2. I don't think you need it anything if it's already in the terrarium

3. peat is to compact for the roots. If you don't have access to LFS either live or dried. I'd try a mix 1:1 Peat:Perlite or 1:1:1 Peaterlite:vermiculite add sand to either if you like. (Edit: I use either of the 2 mixes, with a top dressing of LFS)

4. The base of the leaf, where it connected to the plant, is the most important, but keeping the whole leaf in contact with the moss seems to lengthen the time it takes to dry out.

4b. Move the moss around so it conforms to the shape of the leaf. For my P. 'Aphrodite' leaves I poke a whole diagonally into the LFS about 1" deep, and would then put the leaf into the whole, making sure I could still see the base of the leaf so I can see when new growth starts. After growth was visable, I'd bring it up to the surface. Smaller leaved Pinguicula I just place on the surface, trying to get them into a dimple.

[peanuts1gang]

is it alright if i put them in Dip N Grow, a liquid rooting concentrate.? basiclly its for taking cuttings that help them survive?

[Gawd_oOo]

I am going to say no, but that is just a knee jerk reaction. You'll have to wait for someone who knows about dip n grow.

I haven't found a need to use anything to help them start.

[seedjar]

Dip 'n Grow can be kind of harsh - it's really more for inducing root growth in stem cuttings and plant parts that don't normally produce roots on their own. I'm not 100% sure it would be bad, but Pings seem to readily bud and root from cuttings so I think it's unnecessary. If you want to increase your yield, try a 15-minute soak in Superthrive before planting the cuttings - that seems to work great for Drosera clones.
~Joe

[peanuts1gang]

i will experiment with dip n grow
tell you guys how it goes

[Joseph Clemens]

Using "Dip 'N Grow®". Sorta like seasoning when you're a cook. If 1/4 teaspoon of salt makes it taste "good". Maybe a cup would make it taste better?

A more accurate description would be:
1) Dip 'N Grow® is a combination of synthetic auxins (root inducing hormones), not a kinetin (bud inducing hormone). Formulated for use on stem cuttings to induce rooting on stems (plant parts that already have buds).
2) Since auxins are antagonists of kinetin, you might experience a failure to induce budding, hence plant formation from leaf cuttings.
3) Dip 'N Grow® active ingredients are in a 66% alcohol (Isopropyl and Ethanol) base, even diluted 20x per label directions for "succulents", the alcohol might be too harsh for Pinguicula leaves.

Anyway: please let us know how it goes. Perhaps it will be a positive experience despite my expectations to the contrary.

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I do have the product, Dip 'N Grow®. I use it with woody cuttings. I've never had any problems starting plants from Pinguicula leaves, so the thought of using anything to hasten a process that normally only takes a week or two, seems like overthinking the process.

[meriwether]

I'm interested in Ping's now. Very easy and interesting to propagate.

[Joseph Clemens]

Welcome aboard the Pinguicula express.