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Thread: What do we know about the new byblis species?

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    Finch, I am not even going to bother arguing with you about this for a single second- I'd rather not waste any more of my time. Your warped reasoning is severely flawed and you have absolutely no concept of the subject at hand. If I am brazen, I'll have a go at belittling you and declare you ignorant. That's all I've got to say at the moment without getting myself into trouble.

    Why do I bother......

    End of conversation, end of my participation in this topic. I unlike many others on this forum know when to keep my mouth shut [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/confused.gif[/img] .

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    Finch, please just accpet that youre wrong......I am definetly with Seandew on this one, I have known about these plants ever sicne Ive gotten intot he industry and if you did a bit of searching you would discover that they wernt recently descovered at all.

    Finch, Seandew has been growing for more then 20 years, not nessercerilly Byblis at the beggining of that period but to the best of my knowledge he has grown Byblis for at least 10 years, so why are you arguing with someone with that much experience? Dont you think over 20 years of growing is extensive experience? If Barry Rice sees this Im sure he'll give his opinion, and I bet he would also agree with Seandew.
    You can also email him and ask, however dont expect his anwser to be any different then Seandews
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    considering that im basing this information on a direct quote from his website, i would hope not.


    http://www.sarracenia.com/faq/faq5080.html

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    Quote[/b] ]Until recently this genus had but two species (B. liniflora and B. gigantea), but new discoveries in Australia brought to light three new species, B. rorida, B. filifolia, and B. aquatica. (Oddly enough, some of my own observations of the plants in cultivation were cited as important evidence that the genus should be split into more than two species!). Even more recently, yet another species (B. lamellata, closely related to B. gigantea) was described--so there are six species in the genus.

    Im dont doubt sedew's experence, but Barry rice is in the IUCN's Specialist Groups in Carnivorous Plants and North American Plants. AND the Director of Conservation for the International Carnivorous Plant Society, so i feel that his opinion has more clout than the person i am arguing with. If that makes me igrnorant in someones eyes, than good thing that others have a more specific defenition of ignorant! Just because he has lots of growing experence does not automaticly make him right, starman!

    And Seandew is knows he is so right that, without even ever growing the plants or making any observations, he can accuse someone else of not justifying his statement. I wonder whos more justified- someones who has made an observation and make a statement (Barry rice), or somewonw who hasent made a observation and made a statement (Seandew). I have not hade any onservations so i was basing my arguments on other's. i would love to have soem direct growing experence with thes eplants to make my own observation. And i may be wrong. Barry rice may be wrong. And Seandew may be right. But come back and tell me weather its right or not when youv actually SEEN the plants in action. If you had, i would be much more inclined to beleive you. But right now i think you are somewat of a quack. Perhaps i am to. Do two ducks make a flock?
    that makes no logic

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    No Finch, Seandew has been growing Byblis for more then 6 years and hes seen them in the wild, so youre wrong on at least that argument.

    When Barry Rice said that statement he meant that those species had recently been recognised. It doesnt mean they wernt discovered before that.
    People DID know about them before that but they recognised them all as B.filifolia.

    Finch, Im not going to argue with you either, just email Barry Rice and ask him yourself.
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    Finch, I think you've misconstrued Barry's words. He meant that some of his evidence was used when recognising that the genus contains more than two species, not that the plants currently thought to be Byblis ought to be grouped into two or more distinct genera. You'll find then that Sean & Barry are basically saying the same thing!

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    Ah. ok, i see now. That makes sence. I guess i was the one who was mistaken.

    I took the words wrong and then ran with it. I could havve been nicer about it.



    Still, Sean was aufly and unduely rude and insulting.

    While i may come off wong, he comes off as a complete A$$hole.
    that makes no logic

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    jeez, the proper way to appologize is to not say that about someone. really isn't that important.

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    Watch out, those photos do not belong you. You can link to them, but not show them directly! One of them is my property, stop the linking!!!

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