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    Quote[/b] ]soil – noun
    1. the portion of the earth's surface consisting of disintegrated rock and humus.
    2. a particular kind of earth: sandy soil.
    3. the ground as producing vegetation or as cultivated for its crops: fertile soil.
    4. a country, land, or region: an act committed on American soil.
    5. the ground or earth: tilling the soil.
    6. any place or condition providing the opportunity for growth or development: Some believe that poverty provides the soil for crime.
    [Origin: 1300–50; ME soile < AF soyl < L solium seat, confused with solum ground]

    —Related forms
    soilless, adjective

    earth - noun

    6. soil and dirt, as distinguished from rock and sand; the softer part of the land.

    dirt - noun

    2. earth or soil, esp. when loose.

    8. Mining.
    a. crude, broken ore or waste.
    b. (in placer mining) the material from which gold is separated by washing.

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    Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
    Soil (2,3 & 6) CP mix or peat bogs certainly qualify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (The Griffin @ Jan. 04 2007,7:46)] . . . on the immediate surface of the earth.



    Cheers,
    Joe
    I blame my horticulture and soils professors in college for drilling this distinction into me. I discovered that they had their reasons - which later seemed quite sensible.
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    I make the distinction between "natural soil", which is still "on the immediate surface of the earth." and artificial soil, that which we call media or substrate (whose ingredients can include, "soil"). In horticulture these, media are frequently referred to as soilless mixes, etc. If they were actually considered, "soil", then how would you teach someone that the inclusion of "natural soil" could be dangerous to plants grown in pot culture. It is especially important to make this distinction when discussing these details with others, because we cannot assume that someone, especially someone we don't know, doesn't mean "true soil", which would, in most cases, be deadly to CP. Some of the first books about CP I read, said that CP grew in "acid soils". In the late 60's and early 70's, one might wonder what "acid soil" truly was. I sure did.
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    Main Entry: soil·less
    Pronunciation: 'soi(-&)l-l&s
    Function: adjective
    : having, containing, or utilizing no soil [soilless agriculture] [soilless media for starting seeds]



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    Joseph, your instructors were absolutely correct - in their profession the distinction is critical. For most people the "layman's" definitions as shown in the dictionary normally applies. A horticulturalists dictionary entry on soil would probably take up many pages. Every profession, art or specialty has it's own terminology, nomenclature and refinement of everyday language in order to communicate what is important to them. An example of this that one of my college classes used: In the English language we have one word for snow. The Eskimos have 20 (I don't recall the exact number).
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    Wow, did not mean to stir up so much silt(Pun).
    You know I know what you mean, Mr. Clemmens, and I by no means argue with why you do that-better safe than sorry.
    Hope I did not hurt any feelings or make it seem like I was attacking-just having a little fun.

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    See, perfect example. To me, acid soil means rotten leaves and pine straw lol.

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    phew! thank u for all ur help, i think this was my fault using the
    word soil for long fiber sphagnum.
    does anybody have a N. tentaculata?

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    And our friends over the pond call it compost which to me is the decomposed remaines of leaves and grass. Not something I would grow my CPs in.
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