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    D. "ultramafica" - this thing is looking more and more like D. spatulata every day. Being too lazy to rearrange my plant shelf so I could get at this because of the flower I put it on the windowsill. Note the lack of upright leaves except for those that are in the process of opening.

    I'm not sure if this is from BCP or CZ Plants. Maybe Ron knows. And they're getting 10-12 euros for these? One of the nurseries in Australia sells D. spatulata 'Tamlin' for one Australian penny in appreciation of the help he gave in sorting out the IDs of most of their Drosera inventory.



    The Tamlin Dawnstar rule of D. spatulata: If it looks like spatulata it is spatulata.
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    Well, it looks like spatulata!

    Mine still looks like a pile of fetid garbage. But I'm restarting from leaf cuttings, so I should have some nicer results soon. Still having major mould issues with mine. They are the most fresh from TC plants I've ever received. Still acclimating after several months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RL7836 View Post
    On the D. ultramafica vs spatulata, it sounds like Herr Fleischmann believes the latest plants being shared everywhere are actually D. ultramafica x spatulata hybrids - not pure spatulata.
    I kinda figured that when Herr Fleischmann siad that our plants were a hybrid, the debate stopped. I don't think I've ever known him to be wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Number View Post
    I'm not sure if this is from BCP or CZ Plants. Maybe Ron knows.
    While I am not certain, I don't believe our plants came from either vendor. However, there's a very good chance that the original source of the hybrid is the same...

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    I currently have 2 of the 'real' seedlings looking like they will survive (I know - famous last words) and another needing a miracle. At least we're getting out of the hotter weather - so they have a better shot at survival.
    The one seedling in the 1st pot died. The seedling in the 2nd pot is still growing and now upon closer inspection has several siblings:
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    Well if it is a hybrid, the hybridization must have taken place in cultivation. In Fleischmann et al paper on D. ultramafica they state that no hybrids were found along with D. ultrimafica for the simple reason that D. spatulata does/will/can not grow in ultramafic soils. If it is a hybrid of D. ultramafica spatulata is it sterile or fertile? If fertile seed from the hybrid (F2 generation) has been going around then the implication would be that D. ultramafica is not a species but a form/var/ssp of D. spatulata. That was the test Robert Gibson applied to D. neocaledonica - the hybrid was sterile. I've not know Robert Gibson to be wrong either.

    Last time I checked the seedlings from Robert Gibson were still not growing and down to 2 survivors. According to Ivan when he examined the seedlings he saw red stipules which would suggest they are indeed D. ultramafica.
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    loving the side shoots, they are very cute


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    Grand Hotel... always the same. People come, people go. Nothing ever happens.

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    D. tomentosa stalk
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    How are you growing this one Ron?
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