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Thread: Heeeeelp...... I just received GA3 for Byblis hybrid seeds....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Number View Post
    Otherwise with 20% GA3 to make the standard 1000 ppm solution it would be 5 grams per 1 liter of water.
    I've read and re-read this thread a few more times. Forget the scoop and the table. The above formula works for me... only I'll just do 1 gram of GA3 and dissolve it in 200 mL of purified water.

    ---------- Post added at 06:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:20 PM ----------

    Better yet.... I've got all these 50 mL centrifuge tubes... I can do .25 grams for each tube and devote one to each of the hybruds.

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    Of course weighing the material is the best method,if one has access to a decent scale.

    I thought measuring/mixing was the issue, as NaN had addressed the suggested "1000 ppm solution" at the very beginning of this thread. (Sorry, apparently I misunderstood what you were asking...)
    Although I would start with the lesser concentration suggested (500ppm or even half that) & work up from there, or simply make a batch of the high concentration (1000ppm) mixture, separate it into small amounts & dilute a few of them in different amounts, to create different PPM batches for trial.)

    The site claims (with many mis-spelled words) "The intructions sheets that come with heach product indicate how much fits into a scoop."
    (Or in plain English: "The instruction sheet that comes with each product will indicate how much (grams) fits into a scoop.")

    Having the instructions would have solved the "mixing" issue from the very start.
    I looked around the thread here but didn't notice... What indeed happened to the instruction sheet?

    If they didn't send one, they need contacting about it! If for no other reason than to inform them that they need to get their act together, lest other growers run into the same issue.

    By the way, if you can weigh out 1 gram (or less) as you now mention doing, then there was apparently no problem mixing/measuring to begin with. I thought that was part of the problem, that you couldn't weigh the powder out. Again, sorry, my mistake.

    Also, the weight (# of grams) the scoop (1/32 tsp) ultimately holds, can only be determined by the material that is in it (Specific gravity/specific weight).
    [One tsp. of lead weighs more than one tsp. of water.]

    Bottom line, find the instructions they sent, get a scale, or contact the company to get a copy of the instructions they didn't send the first time.


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    I believe he got the ga3 second hand and the other person didn't send the instructions along??

    Any who I see the ga3 is being used for bulks seeds here. Can it be used on nep seeds as well to get germination?
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    Ohhh! So that is what Chris was referring to!
    Where is that guy!
    What a trouble maker!

    But as I mentioned, trying out a few different concentrations is the safest route to go.
    Even if you do measure on a scale... different seed respond differently IMO.
    If I remember right, the rarer the seed, the more likely the mixture will be the wrong concentration...

    I better go polish up on my mind reading skills now....
    Seems they are in need of improving.

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    Wow! Three pages? The whole discussion is actually interesting.

    Yep, my GA3 is 90% which is why I should be using 1 g : 1 litre water. But it is rather silly to use everything at a go, so I "devised" my own proportions without an electronic weighing scale.

    The concentration I "concocted" was suitable for Byblis and Drosophyllum. It didn't harm Drosera and Nepenthes seeds and because they were pretty old, I though the GA3 might have helped since the germination rate was rather decent.

    Sometimes, I make up a 50ml solution and freeze it in 5 containers of 10ml each. Works beautifully.

    So Jim, your "1 gram of GA3 and dissolve it in 200 mL of purified water" will be perfect. And "50 mL centrifuge tubes...0.25 grams for each tube" will be brilliant! Anything a little less will work fine too...just don't go over 1000ppm for the Byblis seeds. I've not tried so I don't know what harm too high a concentration can bring.
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    Another 'wrench' in the works is that among the various people I've contacted, was Sheila Little (A/K/A Indymental), whose name also popped up in my Internet search for B. Guehoi. (or however it's spelled). She recommended a ppm of 100-250, as was mentioned earlier. So now I am cornfused as to whether it should be 1000 ppm concentration or ~175 ppm. That's a pretty big difference. LOL! So which is the correct ppm to shoot for. After that, the math easy. So is weighing things out on a balance, since I can easily do that at the lab in which I work.

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    I also Messaged Brian Barnes but he hasn't responded yet. I'm torn between 2 people saying that it should be 100-250 ppm and 2 people saying it should be 1000 ppm. That's a significant difference! I also messaged Brian Barnes but he hasn't responded. Should I go for the higher ppm or the lower or shoot for 500 ppm?

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    They could very well all be correct...

    But if Cindy told me to sing yankee doodle dandy while I applied the GA3, I'd be singing yankee doodle dandy

    (just my humble opinion)

    So Jim, your "1 gram of GA3 and dissolve it in 200 mL of purified water" will be perfect. And "50 mL centrifuge tubes...0.25 grams for each tube" will be brilliant! Anything a little less will work fine too...just don't go over 1000ppm for the Byblis seeds.

    I think she is using 900ppm if i understood her reply to ya correctly
    Last edited by Av8tor1; 11-07-2011 at 08:51 AM.

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