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Thread: Help a beginner with Drosera Filiformis (Florida All Red)

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    I notice that sodium is not listed as an element tested for in Aquafina. When my rain barrels aren't producing, like this year, I can get purified r.o. water at my grocery store from their vending machine for about 35 cents US a gallon. All you need is a container.
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    I live in Memphis too. I grow a few of those outside. We have the perfect weather for filiformis. We also have water that is less than 50ppm TDS. People here have been growing CPs using our tap water for decades without issues.

    So skip the aquafina and use your tap. And grow it outside if possible, though a good window sil should be ok too. Though the temp drop you get from growing them outside makes my Florida all-reds dew up heavily (and they get to feed on all of those juicy bugs outside).
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    The analysis of Aquafina looks good. Aquafina is fine to use for CPs & saltwater aquariums and does not have added minerals or salts.

    1st off, do your pots have drainage holes to suck in water from your tray? I have the same type of pots lying around & mine do not have drainage making tray method pointless. There's another thread that just started on getting rid of fungus gnats which may be another problem & will only do harm to a weakened plant. Besides those 2 points I would add some supplemental artificial light & it should recover just fine. Good luck

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    If it's drinking water check the nutrition label for how much sodium is in it. The plain bottled waters appear to have 0 sodium while the flavored ones have from about 30mg to 180mg per serving (12 or 16oz).
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    Even the plain water has added sodium ... Just not at levels they are required to register. Early on, bottled water companies discovered that truly pure water tasted "flat" or "stale" to most people. Now whether those levels are significant from the dros's standpoint, I do not know.
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    How much is "not enough to register"? A TDS of <200 ppm? <100 ppm? <50? A TDS of < 100ppm is considered safe by many growers. <50 by almost all.

    The information about adding salt because of "flat taste" is at least 16 years old. The "tastes" of the American public have changed with the anti-sodium health consciousness and nutrition labeling.

    Simple enough, take the water to a pet store that sells fresh water fish and have them test the water - pH, TDS, ammonia, phosphates, nitrite and nitrates. Most will do it for free.

    However as pointed out before, the cost of buying drinking water vs "distilled" or "filtered by Reverse Osmosis" water can be prohibitive. Often they are exactly the same thing - notice how RO filters will add deionization and carbon filtration for "great taste". Read the labels Distilled water - Distilled by Reverse Osmosis. Drinking water - filtered by Reverse Osmosis. Filtered water - Filtered by Reverse Osmosis. The difference in price is more in packaging than anything else.

    I buy my water from the Glacier vending machines. The TDS is consistently around 2ppm. The highest one time was 10ppm. Their website touts "Great taste!" or "Great tasting" every where you look. So do the machines themselves.

    http://glacierwater.com/
    This is the graphic used on the Glacier vending machines:


    Step 3 - Reverse Osmosis - for salts and impurities
    Step 4 - Post Carbon Filter - improves taste of water

    The nutrition label on the machine also says 0 sodium. I watched the tech service one of the machines. There is no container for salt or salt water in the machines.

    A TDS of 50ppm (parts per million) would be 49.9429500 mg per liter of water. 1ppm = 0.9988590 mg/l. The USDA recommended Sodium intake is 2,400 mg per day which would work out to a TDS of 2402.7415272 ppm.
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    I've lived all over the city of Memphis, and even in the most remote parts of the county (Eads), and all of our water is very low tds. Just skip the aquafina and use our tap water.

    I also agree that it needs more sun as well, as much as you can give it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Number View Post
    How much is "not enough to register"? A TDS of <200 ppm? <100 ppm? <50? A TDS of < 100ppm is considered safe by many growers. <50 by almost all.

    The information about adding salt because of "flat taste" is at least 16 years old. The "tastes" of the American public have changed with the anti-sodium health consciousness and nutrition labeling.

    Simple enough, take the water to a pet store that sells fresh water fish and have them test the water - pH, TDS, ammonia, phosphates, nitrite and nitrates. Most will do it for free.

    However as pointed out before, the cost of buying drinking water vs "distilled" or "filtered by Reverse Osmosis" water can be prohibitive. Often they are exactly the same thing - notice how RO filters will add deionization and carbon filtration for "great taste". Read the labels Distilled water - Distilled by Reverse Osmosis. Drinking water - filtered by Reverse Osmosis. Filtered water - Filtered by Reverse Osmosis. The difference in price is more in packaging than anything else.

    I buy my water from the Glacier vending machines. The TDS is consistently around 2ppm. The highest one time was 10ppm. Their website touts "Great taste!" or "Great tasting" every where you look. So do the machines themselves.

    http://glacierwater.com/
    This is the graphic used on the Glacier vending machines:


    Step 3 - Reverse Osmosis - for salts and impurities
    Step 4 - Post Carbon Filter - improves taste of water

    The nutrition label on the machine also says 0 sodium. I watched the tech service one of the machines. There is no container for salt or salt water in the machines.

    A TDS of 50ppm (parts per million) would be 49.9429500 mg per liter of water. 1ppm = 0.9988590 mg/l. The USDA recommended Sodium intake is 2,400 mg per day which would work out to a TDS of 2402.7415272 ppm.
    I've worked in the aquarium trade for well over 30 years and have never seen a place that tested tds. Better places will test for GH and KH which can be helpful.
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