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    The Name Game - Part 3

    Allen Lowrie's Carnivorous Plants of Australia: Magnum Opus (2013) lists some 241 species of carnivorous plants at the time of publication. 163 of those are Drosera. Of these 29 are newly named. Some are new species formally described for the first time. Some were renamed as the "true" species were rediscovered. Some are changes in rank (subspecies/varieties to species or vice-versa). Not included are plants which have not been assigned formal names such as the 8 or so petiolaris affinis.

    The numbers to the left of the name have no significance except being the order in the Lowrie's alphabetic list for the genus. If there is no associated number then these are the former names which would now be considered synonyms.

    006: Drosera aquatica Lowrie. Appendix: 1268
    008: Drosera aurantiaca Lowrie. Appendix: 1268
    010: Drosera australis (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Lowrie & Conran. Appendix: 1274
    012: Drosera badgingarra Lowrie & Conran. Appendix: 1273
    015: Drosera barrettorum Lowrie. Appendix: 1269
    016: Drosera basifolia (N.G.Marchant and Lowrie) Lowrie. Appendix: 1274
    Drosera menziesii subsp. basifolia N.G.Marchant & Lowrie. Kew Bulletin 47 (2): 316 (1992).
    019: Drosera bindoon Lowrie. Appendix: 1269
    029: Drosera carbarup Lowrie & Conran. Appendix: 1273
    032: Drosera coalara Lowrie. Appendix: 1269
    033: Drosera collina (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Lowrie. Appendix: 1275
    034: Drosera coomallo Lowrie. Appendix: 1269
    035: Drosera cucullata Lowrie. Appendix: 1270
    037: Drosera depauperata Lowrie & Conran. Appendix: 1270
    045: Drosera eremaea (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Lowrie & Conran. Appendix: 1275
    Drosera macrantha subsp. eremaea N.G.Marchant & Lowrie. Kew Bulletin 47 (2): 318 (1992).
    Drosera stricticaulis subsp. eremaea (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Schlauer. Carnivorous Plant Newsletter 25 (3): 73 (1996).
    Sondera eremaea (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Chrtek & Slavikova. Novitates Botanicae ex Universitate Carolina 13: 43 (2000).
    048: Drosera esperensis Lowrie. Appendix: 1270
    052: Drosera fragrans Lowrie. Appendix: 1271
    054: Drosera geniculata (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Lowrie. Appendix 1275
    Drosera gigantea subsp. geniculata N.G.Marchant & Lowrie. Kew Bulletin vol. 47 (2): 316 (1992).
    Drosera gigantea var. geniculata (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Schlauer. Carnivorous Plants Newsletter vol. 25, p. 73, Sept. (1996).
    057: Drosera glabriscapa Lowrie. Appendix: 1271
    066: Drosera hirsuta Lowrie & Conran. Appendix: 1271
    071: Drosera indumenta Lowrie & Conran. Appendix: 1272
    076: Drosera legrandii Lowrie & Conran. Appendix: 1274
    084: Drosera magna (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Lowrie. Appendix: 1275
    Drosera erythrorhiza subsp. magna N.G.Marchant & Lowrie. Kew Bulletin vol. 47 (2): 317 (1992).
    Sondera magna (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Chrtek & Slavikova. Novitates Botanicae ex Universitate Carolina 13: 44 (2000).
    089: Drosera micra Lowrie & Conran. Appendix: 1272
    096: Drosera monantha (Lowrie & Carlquist). Lowrie. Appendix: 1276
    Drosera macrophylla subsp. monantha Lowrie & Carlquist. Phytologia 73 (2): 111 (1992).
    101: Drosera nana Lowrie. Appendix: 1272
    117: Drosera pingellyensis Lowrie & Conran. Appendix: 1274
    124: Drosera prophylla (Marchant & Lowrie) Lowrie. Appendix: 1276
    Drosera marchantii subsp. prophylla N.G.Marchant & Lowrie. Kew Bulletin 47 (2): 319 (1992).
    Drosera stolonifera subsp. compacta N.G.Marchant.Fl. Australia 8: 384, 43 (1982).
    156: Drosera trichocaulis (Diels) (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Lowrie. Appendix: 1276
    Drosera paleacea var. trichocaulis Diels. Das Pflanzenreich 26: 67 (1906).
    Drosera paleacea subsp. trichocaulis (Diels) N.G.Marchant & Lowrie. Kew Bulletin 47 (2): 327 (1992).
    158: Drosera verrucata Lowrie & Conran. Appendix: 1272


    Note that some plants like Drosera carbarup now have a formal name!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Number View Post
    045: Drosera eremaea (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Lowrie & Conran. Appendix: 1275
    Drosera macrantha subsp. eremaea N.G.Marchant & Lowrie. Kew Bulletin 47 (2): 318 (1992).
    Drosera stricticaulis subsp. eremaea (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Schlauer. Carnivorous Plant Newsletter 25 (3): 73 (1996).
    Sondera eremaea (N.G.Marchant & Lowrie) Chrtek & Slavikova. Novitates Botanicae ex Universitate Carolina 13: 43 (2000).
    Really? They actually tried to establish this one as a new genus, moving it outside of the Drosera? That's bold and outlandish.
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    Sure, why not? It happens all the time in taxonomy. You'd have to read the publication to see what the justification is. And certainly not unprecedented in carnivorous plants, e.g. Chrysamphora californica

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemax View Post
    Really? They actually tried to establish this one as a new genus, moving it outside of the Drosera? That's bold and outlandish.
    I wouldn't be a bit surprised if somewhere down the road the Drosera genus gets broken up into several separate genera. The lumper vs. splitter debates are nothing new and are sure to only get worse as time wears on and there are less and less new species to discover and squabble over. I don't think that it's outside the realm of reality that at some point in the future, some taxonomist or group of taxonomists will try to break off the tuberous, pygmy, petiolaris and possibly a few other individual species or complexes into distinct genera of their own.

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    Drosera are already split into subgenus and section. These could conceivably be elevated to genus and subgenus.

    The Carnivorous Plant FAQ: All the Drosera species, and sections too!
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    My apologies for possibly derailing informational threads with my rants about rapidly-changing nomenclature. Perhaps somewhere else would be appropriate for such a discussion. I do appreciate the news of the name changes and I agree there is certainly more coming.
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    There's nothing to apologize for. The topic is "The Name Game" so your contributions are on topic and welcome. Ego often plays as much in the naming of plants as scientific considerations. Sometimes it is a matter of publish or perish. Or someone falls in love with a name looks for the first chance to apply it to a species or cultivar regardless if the plant is worthy of the status to begin with.

    I feel a lot of the controversy over Nepenthes robcantlyi had as much to do with Martin Cheek's choice of name as much as it did over merit as a species.
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    Whoever commented that democracy in process wasn't pretty might've known something about taxonomy. But as a system what would we have instead of the methods we use now to name organisms? Some sort of authority that does the naming and leaves no room for changes? 'Just trying to look at the whole of the subject.
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