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Thread: Hmm, neem oil vs. b. liniflora

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    Orthene, diazinon, and sevin are all insecticides and won't help with fungi.

    The Cleary's 3336 fungicide that PFT sells is topnotch commercial grade. Well worth getting over anything you will find in most garden centers.

    Neem oil is supposed to be quite good and has indeed been used by orchid growers for a while. I have no personal experience with it. Most cp's are much more sensitive to chemicals than orchids however, so always be careful with new chemicals!

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    Well, I basically soaked it down with schultz's product. It's a small undrained container so any damage should be noticeable. So far it's been a few days since the application and here are the results:

    The B. liniflora isn't:

    Wilting
    Dying (yet)
    Aborting it's flowers
    Looking like it's burned (well, dry leaf tips don't count [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] )
    Apparently it's not getting eaten by fungus gnat larvae from what I can tell unless they're under the substrate

    It is:
    Still putting up flowers
    putting out leaves
    growing like it was [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]


    So far so good. We'll see what happens. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

    Btw, anyone know how long it takes to tell if a Byblis is setting seed or not? It's in flower and I want to make sure I can pollenate it. That way I can get seed, and put it under more stress to see if the stuff is hurting it. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]
    Lithops care info: If you take care of it, it will die.

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    Any updates Vertigo??

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    I just got a .9% Neem Oil Spray to fight back against the botrytis that besieges my CPs. Luckily it hasn't reached the plants yet, but the soil in the pot of my little D. Rotundifolia is starting to be overrun. Plus, My AC unit FESTERS with the stuff, so I think that's how the plants caught it originally, since the AC unit is right under the windowsill where the rotundifolia and a purp grow, as well a where I place the plants when I prune and water them. IS this stuff going to hurt my Plants? Plants to be treated include: S. Leucophylla and purpurea, D. Rotundifolia and D. Muscipula.
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    UPDATE

    Well guys, its been ten days so far, should be long enough for a plant to drop i'd think...especially since I get it a few more shots of the stuff for the heck of it. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img]

    The lower "leaves" from the byblis are drying up and dying off (it was doing this before anyway), it seems to be leaning more, but hmm, could that be from the seed pod that formed 3 days after spraying? Two more flowers have opened, one gone already.

    Here's something interesting...two days after the original application of this stuff, and I noticed a byblis seed germinated that hadn't a while back when this one did. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] So strange.

    Btw, don't expect instant results on insects with this stuff. Seems to take a little bit and they really don't seem to like it. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] Also, if there's a spot on the plant that doesn't have it, they'll still go for the plant (fungus gnat larvae...vengeful ********). I may go for something a bit stronger than this stuff. Might be good to use here and there though.

    Btw...i also sprayed a seedling vft. We'll see what happens with that.

    Whatever happens with the byblis happens, lets just hope the seed pod finishes ripening first. It will be interesting to see how long the seedling lasts in medium that's soaked with neem oil.
    Lithops care info: If you take care of it, it will die.

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    I'm confused...are you trying to get rid of pests or fungus? I thought Neem was a pesticide too. Got little pests, you need pesticide....got fungus, you need a fungicide. Got milk...you need a cookie. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]

    Unless its a broad spectrum chemical of some sort that does both.

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    Quote (PlantAKiss @ Sep. 15 2003,10:07)
    I'm confused...are you trying to get rid of pests or fungus? I thought Neem was a pesticide too. Got little pests, you need pesticide....got fungus, you need a fungicide. Got milk...you need a cookie. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]

    Unless its a broad spectrum chemical of some sort that does both.

    Suzanne[/QUOTE]
    Hehehe, that's why they call it schultz fungucide3. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] Fungucide, pesticide, miticide. Apparently it's the milk and cookie all wrapped up in a fun little snack bar.


    UPDATE

    Well, the byblis is sulking. Weird huh? It looks like it's dying off from the bottom up. All the lower leaves are pretty dried out, but I can't tell if maybe the base of the plant started to rot, or if it's from the neem oil. Let's hope the seed pod matures before that leaf dies off.

    The seedling is still hanging out though. That's still a weird one. I wouldn't have thought that it would want to germinate after it was covered with neem oil. But, it's there.

    I'm gonna continue using this product here and there, just for giggles. It doesn't do anything too dramatic from what i've seen. And sometimes fungus gnat larvae eat faster when they're pissed off.

    For fungucide i'm going to stick with cleary's 3336, pesticide I think i'm just going to kick myself a few times and get a big ol' container of orthene and cook the little buggers. Or just put itty bitty utrics in every pot.

    Oh, and fungus gnat larvae will apparently eat an entire seedling flytrap. They love ping leaves, seem to enjoy the roots and leaf tips of byblis, no problem so far with drosera, neps, cephs, helis, or sarr's.

    I'll still keep you guys updated on the byblis. I'll be watching it closely anyway.
    Lithops care info: If you take care of it, it will die.

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    I've used schultz fungucide3 several times without any problems. One time i used it when it was mixed with well water instead of ro water (my mom used up my ro mix and mixed more up with well water and i didn't know it) and even then i didn't have any problems. On the bottle it says the fungicide3 is water based. I plan to use it as my fungicide this dormancy.


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