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I need answers
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well i gues that you are a neophyte with nepenthes right? the most common not-pitchering mistake in the USA is when you put the plant in hot weather, i put a couple of plants in hot weather
and they didn't pitcher, then i put them inside at 70*f and they pitchered like cazy.
btw WHAT PLANT DO YOU HAVE!? A LEAF A DAY!!!!!!!!
thats like giant bamboos (3 feet a day)!!!
and they didn't pitcher, then i put them inside at 70*f and they pitchered like cazy.
btw WHAT PLANT DO YOU HAVE!? A LEAF A DAY!!!!!!!!
thats like giant bamboos (3 feet a day)!!!
i'm not sure what type it is every time i post pics here no one can tell me. i think it's miranda but not sure. yeah i live in tx and it was outside, when i put it under a grow light about 2 months ago i brought it inside. yeah it has a new leaf everyday, alternating from different sides. the thing is huge it should have pitchers!
here you go hopefully it works
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sorry my camera isn't the best but at least you have pics
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sorry my camera isn't the best but at least you have pics
the pitchers it had when i received it were long and skinny and more red than green. they were kinda spotted or whatever you wanna call it. most of them were dead or dying so i couldn't give you a great description. so more light? do i just add another grow light or what? how do i increase humidity? it's in a hanging basket and i'm not sure what it's potted in b/c i've never changed media. i'm to scared i will kill it like i do everything else.
i'm going to go spend the day on the lake so i won't be on much. i'll check post and such when i get back. thanks for your help now and in the future. i still obviously need a lot of it.
talk to you later!
crystal
i'm going to go spend the day on the lake so i won't be on much. i'll check post and such when i get back. thanks for your help now and in the future. i still obviously need a lot of it.
crystal
If you grow it indoors w/out a terrarium, I suggest you buy/build one. Most ways of raising humidity w/out enclosures that are used for orchids are very difficult so the easiest way will be putting it in a tank of some sort. I too have a non-pitchering DeRoose hybrid and am currently working on a large tank to put it in.
-D. Lybrand
-D. Lybrand
Describe the lighting situation please! You mention putting a grow light on it. I can seem some leaves that had gotten bleached and burned about halfway up the stems. Is this when you added the light?
What kind and amount of light is it getting? Natural and artificial. The new growth still looks elongated and lacking in light. Humidity is sometimes an issue for nonpitchering plants but more often than not it is insufficient light.
You might also consider taking a cutting off the top and rooting it. Then try growing the new plant where it will get unshaded sun through a Southern or Western window. You may have to adjust it first though. Put it on the sill though.. not hanging up at the top where it might get less sun.
Or perhaps you can put it outside? What part of the country are you in and what's your weather like?
Tony
Edit: I looked at your profile Crystal. Not sure what the moisture is like in the Dallas/Fort Worth area but outside might be an option. What are the temperatures like? Is your indoor location airconditioned, which would dry the air as well?
What kind and amount of light is it getting? Natural and artificial. The new growth still looks elongated and lacking in light. Humidity is sometimes an issue for nonpitchering plants but more often than not it is insufficient light.
You might also consider taking a cutting off the top and rooting it. Then try growing the new plant where it will get unshaded sun through a Southern or Western window. You may have to adjust it first though. Put it on the sill though.. not hanging up at the top where it might get less sun.
Or perhaps you can put it outside? What part of the country are you in and what's your weather like?
Tony
Edit: I looked at your profile Crystal. Not sure what the moisture is like in the Dallas/Fort Worth area but outside might be an option. What are the temperatures like? Is your indoor location airconditioned, which would dry the air as well?
Based on the leaves and size, along with your description of the pitchers (green with red spots) and the fact it was bought in that plastic hanging pot, I'd say it's an N.gracilis.
My N.gracilis is a little bigger than yours. I grow mine indoors. It is 1' back from a N window under a 25W cool white fluorescent light. Like yours, mine is also quickly producing new leaves and, recently, flower spikes (6 in the past 3 months....and just when I cut one off, another appears). It is also pitchering like mad.
When I acquired mine, it stubbornly refused to pitcher for 3-4 months, even under fairly good lighting and humidity (60-70%). However, once it started, it never stopped. Give your plant some time to adjust to its new environment. I completely agree with the others that higher light and humidity would certainly help pitchering, but if it continues to be stubborn, just give it some time. You can artificially increase humidity around the plant by placing it on a larger tray of wet pebbles (make sure the plant is well above the water line....nepenthes do not like to be in waterlogged soil). Even better, you can buy a cheap warm-air humidifier online or from your local home depot....it will increase the humidity of the entire room and costs little ($30-50). To increase lighting, you can buy a 20-25W cool white compact fluorescent bulb and an appropriate fixture from home depot/lowes (all for ~$10-15). Place the plant ~4-6" below the bulb, and do not let the leaves touch the bulb as they will burn.
Your soil mix looks like a combination of cocofiber and peat. (Cocofiber has a stringy, fiberous consistency.) Make sure it isn't too compacted or the roots may gradually die. If you can't easily push your finger into it even when wet, it's probably too compacted and you should transplant it into a more loose mix.
Good luck with your plant.
My N.gracilis is a little bigger than yours. I grow mine indoors. It is 1' back from a N window under a 25W cool white fluorescent light. Like yours, mine is also quickly producing new leaves and, recently, flower spikes (6 in the past 3 months....and just when I cut one off, another appears). It is also pitchering like mad.
When I acquired mine, it stubbornly refused to pitcher for 3-4 months, even under fairly good lighting and humidity (60-70%). However, once it started, it never stopped. Give your plant some time to adjust to its new environment. I completely agree with the others that higher light and humidity would certainly help pitchering, but if it continues to be stubborn, just give it some time. You can artificially increase humidity around the plant by placing it on a larger tray of wet pebbles (make sure the plant is well above the water line....nepenthes do not like to be in waterlogged soil). Even better, you can buy a cheap warm-air humidifier online or from your local home depot....it will increase the humidity of the entire room and costs little ($30-50). To increase lighting, you can buy a 20-25W cool white compact fluorescent bulb and an appropriate fixture from home depot/lowes (all for ~$10-15). Place the plant ~4-6" below the bulb, and do not let the leaves touch the bulb as they will burn.
Your soil mix looks like a combination of cocofiber and peat. (Cocofiber has a stringy, fiberous consistency.) Make sure it isn't too compacted or the roots may gradually die. If you can't easily push your finger into it even when wet, it's probably too compacted and you should transplant it into a more loose mix.
Good luck with your plant.
IMO the plant looks etoliated, which means it has not been getting enough light. The leaves are floppy, thin and light green which is classic of being grown in these conditions. Low humidity could also be contributing to its condition.
One thing to note is that even when put into perfect conditions, Nepenthes can take some time to recover and start pitchering again when they've been shipped, transplanted or even moved. If nothing has improved after a couple of months, then you would need to reconsider growing conditions.
One thing to note is that even when put into perfect conditions, Nepenthes can take some time to recover and start pitchering again when they've been shipped, transplanted or even moved. If nothing has improved after a couple of months, then you would need to reconsider growing conditions.
It's one of the Deroose hybrids. Probably a N. Miranda. That is the most common besides N. Ventrata which it is not. Nice try guys but sorry it is not a N. gracilis.
Hamish is correct that it could take months before the plant turns around and throws out some pitchers. Although with careful observation we could get an idea if any changes you make are the correct ones based simply on the plant growth after a few weeks or so. With proper light intensity the spacing between the leaves would be closer. The leaves would be thicker and have a nice medium green color. They may even get a flush of reddish color.
Tony
Hamish is correct that it could take months before the plant turns around and throws out some pitchers. Although with careful observation we could get an idea if any changes you make are the correct ones based simply on the plant growth after a few weeks or so. With proper light intensity the spacing between the leaves would be closer. The leaves would be thicker and have a nice medium green color. They may even get a flush of reddish color.
Tony
