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    Rattler,
    I'll be honest, mine looks close to a pure izumiae to me, except it's maybe a bit paler. But if it's from a jacquelineae seed pod then it obviously it can't be.
    I'll be interested to see what it looks like when it's fully open.
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    Rattler, your looks like the ones we have here. Bongso colouration exactly fits the description IMO but you can still see the N. jac heritage in the pitcher shape.

    Tony C, I wonder if you would PM me and let me know where that plant came from please? Doesn't look like a hybrid to me. The hybrids we shipped were raised from seeds of N. jac and then picked out when we discovered that some of the seedlings were not true N. jac. We were originally alerted by a US Distributor who took the first batch of supposed N. jacs when they were very tiny and then later noticed a few hybrids amongst them.

    edit: sorry no mistake!



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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Borneo @ Mar. 05 2006,9:55)]We were originally alerted by a US Distributor who took the first batch of supposed N. jacs when they were very tiny and then later noticed a few hybrids amongst them.
    Just like your N. lowii Rob? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]

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    Exactly Dustin, even the same Distributor. When some of the N. lowii turned out to be N. x trusmadiensis, he politely declined our offer to exchange them for replacements. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
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    Hi, all.
    My putative Jaq x izumiae has opened it's new pitcher now:



    Here's my pure izumiae for comparison:



    They seem subtly different to me, and based on it's origin Rob told me ' despite the appearance, I can't see much liklihood of it not being a hybrid', so I think there must be a range of forms of the plant out there.
    Cheers,
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    Hi Tony,

    Sorry but I don't see any difference there. Can you elaborate? I have seen dozens of N. izumiae and N. jacquelineae and about 10 different N. jacquelineae x izumiae and in all cases the hybrid was easily identifiable from a very young age and quite clearly different from either species.

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    Hmm... Don't know how this happened, all the hybrids we have came from N. jac seed and none from N. izumiae seed. After we realised that not all our N. jac were true, we started to select hybrids by their diffferent appearance from a young age. I'm realy sure there was no mixup with the seeds here, they were even germinated in different nurseries. Could of course be due to the dodgy UK Distributor you purchased the plant from

    I agree with Tony, that it looks just like N. izumiae to me too and I've never seen a hybrid looking exactly like one of the parents. I know you don't want a replacement but I think you deserve one and so we shall send you a typical N. jacquelineae x izumiae hybrid as a gift later in the year. Are you going to the EEE by any chance?
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