User Tag List

Informational! Informational!:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Page 4 of 8 FirstFirst 12345678 LastLast
Results 25 to 32 of 60

Thread: OSMOCOTE Testing on Nepenthes SUCCESSFULLY!

  1. #25

    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    470
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Not Osmocote, but I have been using fertilizer for a couple of months. No controls, so it's not a scientific experiment. However, it seems that the leaves that have started growing since fertilization began are larger than they would have been without the fertilizer. The first two plants are in 4 in. pots, and the third plant is in an 8 in. pot. Admittedly, the perspective of the third plant makes the new leaf seem even bigger than it is relative to the older leaves. The first two photos are taken from directly above the plants, so the perspective is neutral. I have to wait and see how the pitchers turn out.




  2. #26

    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Posts
    55
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hi everybody! Mr. Aga [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

    I think it will be useful to add my bit here. The reinwardtiana that mr. Aga is growing was in fact mine. N. reinwardtiana is not always an easy plant, being an intermediate, and that specimen is what remained of some cuttings that I gave away here and there. That bit was condarned to remain small like that for years, being one of those little, useless plants which will come out from the wrong part of the stem, you know. And infact it remained quite small for at least 2 years (I think Aga received it after some other grower wasn't very lucky as well with it).

    Then I went to work at Borneo Exotics. And I came back, of course, with the Osmocote ghost deep inside me. Now, don't get me wrong: Osmocote, like Miracid and sometimes Peters, Miracle Gro, Orchid fertilizers etc, have been succesfully used for cp for decades (I still remeber my Slack, Pietropaolo and other books talking about it). So it's not a great news. And infact I told you Mr. Aga "yes, you can see if it works with this kind of problems, with those nepenthes plants which usually will never grow, those which if you're lucky will just give you the palm-tree effect. But don't go around shouting it's a miracle, be careful, because it's not". [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

    But yes, it works. Those small, very bad specimens can become serious plants. I did the same with all my cuttings and all of those which where never growing, started growing like crazy. It's not a miracle, it's just fertilizing. Be careful, osmocote has been tested (at Borneo Exotics it was quite seriously tested, and it's used by many other large and small scale producers) and it works better than others, but it has anyway some side effects. First of all after 6 months/1 year, you've to change the soil of your plants, as it will be completely rotten. Maybe you could use an inorganic compost, but I've the impression that with it you loose the effect of the fertilizier, as it will just give back to the soil the nutrients it lacks being inorganic (and usually quite heavy).

    I suggest you to use the osmocote if your plants are young (it's not nice to move a plant from a 30 cm pot, especially Nepenthes!), they're growing in the right environment but they need a good start as they're not moving. Then it's really effective. Remember, water AT LEAST once every other day from above, or the osmocote salts will remain in the soil and they will ruin soil and plant.

    If you didn't know it - just to shout "miracle!" once again [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img] - if you spray your heliamphoras with foliar orchid fertilizer (I always did it following the instructions on the label, never diluted more than that) they will grow much faster and bigger, 2-3 times more than before. And Nepenthes the same, they also like the orchid foliar feeding at the normal strenght.

    At this point the discussion would become endless, and the proof is the topic with hundreds of replies that you find a few pages back: "fertilizing nepenthes: yes or not? with what and how much" or something like that... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

    Marcello

    ps. by the way, yes, every pellet has a different color because it contains a different element. I made an experiment at BE, growing 10 plants for every color (10 plants only with yellow, 10 only with blue etc). For the results I hope Rob will show up into this topic... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

  3. #27
    MrAga73's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    ITALY - Milan
    Posts
    400
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hello Marcello,Hello to everyone!
    I am agree with you.
    Osmocote does sure make more effect on "unluckies" plants and on YOUNG plants because it can bring them in proudly way to reach their mature state.
    I have buyed an osmocote for acid terrains so...do you really think this osmocote we are using can deteriorate so quickly the acid life of the moss?
    We all know that we can keep nepenthes also even 5 years in their native soil...but I hardly can believe that using osmocote we can really cut life of acid soil to only 6 months.
    Somebody has experiences for this question?
    CAN OSMOCOTE REALLY SHORTEN SO MUCH SOIL LIFE PH ACIDITY?
    Sure...I would also like some opinions of Robert from Borneo...
    Mr_Aga
    Milan - ITALY
    ******************************
    Mr_Aga
    Icq : 18240372
    http://www.piantecarnivore.org
    ******************************

  4. #28

    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Posts
    55
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Aga, my dear old friend, mygodyourenglish !!!! Read the message twice before posting, I do it too...

    A clear sign that your soil is getting worse is all the moss that is growing on the sphagnum. Algae and moss on the compost are a sign of the process of rotting (and of many other things...), but they need to extend to great part of the soil surface before you can consider a plant at risk.

    How fast the soil will last depends from your growing conditions. In Sri Lanka they use coconut fiber and they always have 70 percent humidity and 35 degrees in the lowland and 10-25 in the highlands. They use osmocote brand "x" and they repot every 6 months if I'm not wrong (the fiber seems to be not very long lasting but at the same time it comes away more easily from the roots when you repot, if compared to peat, and the plants almost don't suffer any stress).

    Here we use peat (more long lasting), we use osmocote brand "Y" and our conditions are less extreme. That's why I say 6 months/one year. Also consider that bigger pots will last longer. A pot of 5 cm will last a few months (that's also why I suggest to use Osm only with smaller plants that need to be "woken up". With the old ones a few insects and foliar feeding are effective, and you don't have soil problems. Plus, small plants can be "woken up" and repot once every year without much stress).

    I think the best solution at the moment - considering the variability of factors - is to check periodically our little plants and give an answer regarding OUR particular conditions. You'll clearly see signs if the soil is not good anymore, don't worry. The leaves yellowish a little bit, have burnt tips etc. I saw that happening at BE a few times, with too late repottings. So just check our plants and in a few months we'll give our audience an answer. My plants in 6 cm pots at the moment have a lot of algae but are growing fine!

    Marcello

    ps. Your reinw looks great, time to feed it with some serious chicken ? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

  5. #29
    MrAga73's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    ITALY - Milan
    Posts
    400
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hello Marcello!
    My dear friend! i know...now you are really in better conditions for nepenthes growing! Please give a kiss to all those beauties thereeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
    Time to give our friends another little update :
    Finally I am able to feed the reinwardtiana because pitchers are big enough!
    Second news...: sphagnum does seem not to love so much osmocote....not it is yellow and not anymore green like before.Anyway..no problems at all because the Nepenthes is rooted in Acidmoss.
    The first leafes now are beginning to grow outside the vase! ^_^
    I am so happy!
    Some of you FERTILIZE NEPENTHES WITH OSMOCOTE DIRECTLY INTO PITCHERS...: Some direct experiences?
    Enjoy the photos!
    Mr_Aga
    Milan - ITALY

    ******************************
    Mr_Aga
    Icq : 18240372
    http://www.piantecarnivore.org
    ******************************

  6. #30
    Nepenthes Specialist nepenthes gracilis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Alexandria Bay, NY Z-5a
    Posts
    6,341
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    MR AGA,
    You must be very careful when fertilizing the pitchers directly with any type of fertilizer. I suggest 1-3 pellets in each pitcher depending on size and age of the pitcher. If it is a young, small pitcher only 1 pellet. If it is a large old pitcher, then 3 or so pellets will do.

  7. #31
    MrAga73's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    ITALY - Milan
    Posts
    400
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Thank you for the reply...
    but tell me...: do you think that if I would ADD POISON into the pitcher the plant could die?
    Is this possibile? Someone has already try if we can poison a plant trough its pitchers?
    If I would add too much osmocote into the pitchers the biggest damage that I could receive is only the premature dead of the pitcher? Is it right what I am say?
    Please give me your personal opinion!
    Mr_Aga
    Milan - ITALY
    ******************************
    Mr_Aga
    Icq : 18240372
    http://www.piantecarnivore.org
    ******************************

  8. #32
    Nepenthes Specialist nepenthes gracilis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Alexandria Bay, NY Z-5a
    Posts
    6,341
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Well I most certainly wouldn't add poison of any kind into the pitcher or near the plant at all....don't know why you would. If you want to poison a plant just spray it with herbacide! But, if you are asking if it would be possible to poison it via too many Osmocote pellets in a pitcher, your answer it no. The pitcher will die due to the large concentration of fertilizer in the fluid, it wouldn't harm the plant at all...less than poison it!

Page 4 of 8 FirstFirst 12345678 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •