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    Hi all:

    can anybody tell me which species is this?
    Please no cheating



    Gus

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    Lol, I may not have cheated if you wouldn't have mentioned cheating...
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    N. Khasiana maybe
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    Same here you shouldnt have mentioned cheating :P
    Need all the experience I can get...

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    I agree with yoss...Looks like khasiana to me.
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    Sorry, I cheated too. That is amazing. I've never seen one of those before. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that it isn't dark, like the lowers, but I am.
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    You should rename the file to a nondescript name like 001213 before posting Gus. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]

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    Hi all:

    I agree Dustin, but i also wanted to see the honesty left in my fellow nepenthes growers!. Looks like curiosity is stronger!. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/confused.gif[/img]

    Anyway the intention here is not to show off anything but to make a point and at the same time to criticize nepenthes taxonomy:

    you have obviously seen this:
    http://www.wistuba.com/01b0219....ex.html

    Well, if you compare the uppers of N. izumiae from G. Talakmau from this site versus that of Exotica plants, then the plants look very similar but yet the lid on the lowers and uppers are different.

    EP plants tend to have a hooded lid (it looks like someone's dark rear) if i may say so, while those of plants shown in Nepenthes of sumatra and peninsular malaysia page 211 are flattened. so the uppers of these two plants also show those differences

    In no way, i am doubting the identity of either of the two sources of izumiae because both have been confirmed to be the real thing by Charles Clarke, so the only conclusion i can come up with is that these two plants are variants of the same species.

    If N. mirabilis complex is composed of several plants looking different but yet named as the same species ie, N. mirabilis cape York mottled, N. mirabilis chumphon, N. mirabilis echinostoma etc. why can't N. izumiae have two variants?

    Gus [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_l_32.gif[/img]

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