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Thread: N. alata in Sumatra

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    As if the misidentified 'N. alata' plants are bad enough, check this auction out.
    They are using a pic of N. tobaica and a description of it's natural location to boot.
    Think this is the common DeRoose N. 'ventrata' or is it possibly the misnamed tobaica plants(possibly tobaica x khasiana, if I remember the talks we had on that plant)?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Winged-....iewItem

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    Oh man, I thought I had an easy $10 ventrata there until you blew it. Now everybody will bid on it.

    Seriously, the plant looks very ventrata-like, but hard to tell with their crappy angle
    A day without Nepenthes is like a day without sunshine

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    My bad.... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]
    I think it probably is, though it really confuses me why they would use the N. tobaica info.

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    Hello [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

    I do not know if waht i am going to say will make you happy or upset, but the last time i bought an "alata" was from this same auction, and bellow you can see what i recieved:

    N. ventrata:


    I use to buy a lot of plants from these people, and as far as i know they are very responsable and very eficient plant growers. But it seems like they do not have a lot of info about Nep's and this is why they are having this problem of mislabelling this plant.

    Like a year ago, they were salling this same plant under the name of N. tobaica. Then like 6 months ago they started to call it N. alata. But what they really have is N. ventrata. Just look a the pic above and another topic in this section that is called -N. alata or ventrata- Thru that topic i found out that my "alata" was a ventrata. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img]

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    The ventrata "alata" I got from them (Hirts GH) a several years ago had a disease that causes weird rapid/twisted leaf growth with almost no stem inbetween. I've seen this on a lot of plants at "crappy" garden centers where they have diseased plants.
    I destroyed their plant before it infected my good stocks!

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    So, your ventrata "alata" had curled leaves and this leaves were very tight ones to the others? Is this what you mean?

    And you say this is a disease? WOW... While i was reading your post i was remembering some plants that are cultivated with some sort of mutation or maybe this disease and their feature (what makes them be very expensive) is this same characteristics.

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    Jorge,

    The mislabling goes all the way to the nursery that created the tc stock-which is reputed to be a nursery in the Netherlands called DeRoose, I believe. They also have the N. "tobaica" and created the popular N. 'Miranda' as well as others.
    I saw some ventrata the other day in a local nursery labled as N. alata.
    Now who are the garden centers going to believe? The creater or supplier of thier plants, or some "Joe Schmoe" from off the street ?

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    Joe

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    Jorge,

    It's either a virus or a pest, don't know which (no visible pests anyway) but it seems to infect almost any kind of plant. I see it a lot at garden centers on tropical plants that would be nice for my addiction except the latest growth is all crazy and weird looking.
    I hate that cos they don't believe (or want to) that their plants are messed up when you ask them: "what's wrong with this plant, I grow about 50 species of Nepenthes and I already have this one, it doesn't grow like that"
    "that's how it's supposed to look the leaves straighten out as they age"
    "what kind of nepenthes is this?"
    "its a "green foliage plant", that's the hybrid name"
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