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    Correction - I just double checked my references and it looks like I'm confused about branched spurs. It looks like the branched spur would be supportive of ramispina in the background. I'll try to post a picture of it if anyone besides me cares.

    That same picture I was talking about also appears on page 28 of a Guide to the Pitcher Plants of Peninsular Malaysia

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    i have no clue. i have a young sanguinea 'orange' and it looks just like it (structure wise). the hook on the back is different than on yours than on my sanguinea. on mine it "sorta branches" but its not as pronounced as a ramispina or yours.


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    Alex, thanks for the picture of your sanguinea's spur. Since this is the only plant I have labeled sanguinea it is good to have something to compare to. The text does say that sanguinea's spur can be branched "when short".

    Here is a closeup of the spur on the larger pitcher


    And here is a closeup of the spur on the next developing pitcher


    For comparison, here is a spur form A plant that believe is actually ramispina though the plant is still quite immature (pitchers about 3 cm)

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    it looks like ramispina is a lot less hairy too. my sanguinea is very hairy.
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    Hi Rich,
    Long time , no chat.
    If you go further into Bob's site(hybrids) you can find pics of these two. These two urls are actually the reverse cross, but the coloration and some characeristics seem to supposrt your opinion. I thought these were more revealing than the sanguinea x ramispina photos

    http://www.cpuk.org/~vicbrown/images...xsanguinea.jpg

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wb.sher...0sanguinea.jpg


    But since I am there, here is a photo of Sanguinea x ramispina:

    http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...DSCF0031-1.jpg

    It seems easy for some of the Malaysian Peninsular speices to hybridize, one wonders if even a sanguinea x [sanguinea x ramipina] can get in one's collection from seed collected from a female sanguinea.
    Whatever it is, it is gorgeous plant.

    Cheers,

    Joe

    PS Here is Bob Ziemer's CP photobase for viewing pleasure.

    http://www.humboldt.edu/~rrz7001/

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