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    Who else grows the real clipeata?

    I've got clone U, how about you?
    Photos please
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    Should be "real" since no one knows for "sure".

    I have 2 clone 1's. The poser clipeata

    I don't know why US nurseries never have any of the good stuff like this

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    I beg to differ. Only the genders of the clones are not known. Clones 2, 3, U, and T are all the real thing. The only "fake" one is clone 1. If you look on Wistuba's site, clone 1 is not listed as clipeata because it isn't, and clone T is not listed because it died, and there may be only 1 more clone T alive, which is owned by someone other than Wistuba.
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    It's not believed by most to be pure, and I personally it to be a hybrid as well, but it's not confirmed as of yet. Unless it changed on me since the last debate on this plant. Oh wait the last debate went in circles LOL! Wistuba says N. adnata is a highlander, too so it's not infallible. It hasn't been proven if it's a hybrid or not. I don't see eymae in it. I can't explain it, so I go along with what most people say.



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    I definitely see eymae in the pitchers, and there is certainly hybrid characteristics in the leaves. As far as I know, they never attain the rounded appearance for which clipeata is named.

    Maybe an expert can jump in and shed some light on this?
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    Im with JLAP. If its not proven that its a hybrid then you shouldnt just assume that it is.
    Though I have spoken to Andreas Wistuba about it and he also "thinks" its a hybrid.

    But it can surely be clipetea. With different characaristics.
    I mean, have you ever seen 2 plants in the wild that look exactly the same?`
    Or in cultivation for that matter.

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    Sorry but I don’t have a real clone. I got a N. clipeata X (clipeata X eymae) I got it because-
    1. It looks just like the full species except minor differences
    2. It is a easier to grow form that grows faster
    3. its far cheaper and more available in the US
    4. it hasn’t been proven as a hybrid
    I just ordered it and am waiting for it to arrive; I can’t wait to see how it’s going to look!
    I do plan on getting a true clipeata when I can find one readily (cheaply) available.
    By the way does anyone have photos of the real clipeata or of the clipeata X (clipeata X eymae)?

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    The leaves for which the species is named


    unopened pitcher on immature (secondary) leaf

    courtesy of the photo finder:
    clip x eymae


    clip x clip x eymae
    http://www.exoticplantsplus.com/NclipeataClip1Q.htm


    The differences between the true clipeata and clip x clip x eymae and especially clip x eymae are more apparent than the similarities. If these would flower, it would be easy to prove clone 1 as a hybrid or not. Based on morphology though (I do realize thats not the best idea, but it seems to be how nepenthes are classified), it is painfully obvious the hybrids are considerably different from the true species.
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