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    I don't want to, but I'm leaving for college in like a year so setting up another big tank and new lighting and all isn't practical for just 12 months. I mean... that's what I'm doing right now but I have to do something in the mean time, right? lol. My parents put up with a LOT and my dad is nice enough to rewire the basement and put in a new circuit or whatever it is he's doing down there. I don't want to ask for too much lol. I feel I've mastered lowlanders, it's time for something a little more challenging. Or hell maybe they aren't more challenging, and I just think highlanders are.

    It's a beautiful plant and I hate to see it go, but it will be there in 8 years when I'm out of college so it's OK. The camera is charging, I'll take pics later.

    The thermometer says the basement temp is a max of 70, minimum of 66.2. Humidity is a max of 80, minimum of 70.

    I guess my terrarium will be around 80 in the day, 70 at night. Just an estimate. It could be 66 but I doubt it. In the winter it get's cooooold down there. Atleast 50. I'm going to rely on you guys to edumacate me on highlanders! I've been here so long it seems so weird to be asking for help like this lol. I'm excited.

    Look in the trading post. I've got 16 pics in all. I wonder if the clip clone 1 would do OK in an intermediate/highland setup. I like it lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustLikeAPill View Post
    Fantastical. I'll wait a week, see what the temps are and then PM ya. I'm so nervous because highlanders were always the "holy grail" super hard advanced plants.
    SOunds like a plan. PM me when/if you want to work something out
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    If you want to get the night temps down get one of the room sized cool mist humidifiers and use it at night. I got a 2 pack for 30 bucks at target. It's good for maybe about 5 degrees plus it brings my night time humidity up to 90-95 which is a good thing if you want a hamata. I'm finally getting a pitcher on mine.

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    Sounds abit warm at night for HLer's.. Might do well with intermediate/tolerant plants. Hamata might be good to try at the end of Summer.
    Some of the plants yer thinkin of trading might do quite well in there like the Belli x Ventricosa for instance.
    The winter sounds like it'd be great for HLer's but you might want to cool them at night further if you want to grow true HLer's in the Summer...

    Difficulty of cultivation is a matter of where you are, people from Frisco have an easier time of growing Hamata's & Inermis' than Bical's & Campanulata's.
    New Yorker's are jacked, Hot as anything in the Summer and Bone-Chilling Cold in the Winter....

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    Cool, will the ceph or talangensis be happy? I need a list of everything I'm allowed to have lol. Hint hint..

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    Well, let's see... I'm sure differences of opinion will surface from other growers, but I'd sayyyy...

    'Big Easy'
    Capes
    and other Cool-growing Dews that can take a bit of heat in the summer
    H. 'Tequilla' and other easy Heli hybrids
    The U. Bisquitmada's(spelling?) seem to like similar temps cause they flower like crazy
    and Tolerant Nepenthes species that can take the cool, winter temps and won't get cooked in the summer such as: Hamata, Epipheata, Inermis as far as I know
    Intemediate hybrids on the cool side like Predator, Veitchii x Tiveyi, Spathulata x Maxima, any Ventricosa hybrid and I like most of em ALOT!
    And of course, Ceph's. I'd say let it get cool in the winter for a seasonal variance.
    I would think all those would do well in the temps you described, the species Neps might not like the summer much, but should pull through and enjoy the winter. It probly would be best to adjust the photoperiod throughout the season though so intermidiate Neps would probly be best.

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    Right now the temp is like.. 74 and humidity is 95%. I took off half of the acrylic cover, so we'll see what happens with the humidity and temp. EDIT: now it's 85% humidity and 72 degrees. So far so good. It's weird putting your hand in a terrarium and having it feel cool.

    Oh and hamata and inermis? Someone told me those need cooler nights. What about talangensis? I've already got a trade for that cooking up.


    Well here's one room in the basement. The entire basement is big and has rooms but no walls, just like... support walls that are like.. well like basement support frames. I dunno what the real word is. OH you can see the kind of walls I mean in the pics below! Duh clint!

    Don't laugh at the mess! lol










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    Okay Clint, in my crawlspace, under conditions almost exactly like yours (my humidity is slightly lower) I am growing the following:

    Utricularia

    (Note, reniformis and longifolia are seasonally grown here in the winter and on the deck in the summer.)

    Orchidioides

    U. alpina (ABG clone)
    U. alpina cv. ‘Pittier Moon’
    U. alpina “HP1” F2 (from 2006 seed)
    U. alpina “Ayuan”
    U. alpina (Carniflora, NL clone)
    U. asplundii
    U. asplundii “Duida, smaller flowers”
    U. asplundii “Duida” F2 (from 2006 seed)
    U. quelchii “Mt Ilu”
    U. quelchii (Sonja Clone)
    U. quelchii “Mount Rorima”
    U. campbelliana
    U. endresii
    U. endresii "Cerro Nada, Atelopus varius site, Costa Rica, 250m"
    U. endresii (Gert clone)
    U. praetermissa
    U. praetermissa "Costa Rica"
    U. praetermissa (Gert clone)
    U. jamesoniana “Represa el Penol, Antioquia, Colombia, 1900m”
    U. jamesoniana “Duida”
    U. cv. ‘Jitka’ (praetermisa x quelchii)
    U. alpina x endresii
    U. humboldtii x quelchii
    U. alpina x humboldtii (from 2005 seed, not confirmed by bloom yet)
    U. alpina x asplundii (from 2006 seed, not confirmed by bloom yet)

    Iperua

    U. reniformis “Large form”
    U. reniformis “Small form” (Vic clone)
    U. reniformis “Small form” (Gert clone)
    U. reniformis cv. ‘Enfant Terrible’
    U. reniformis cv. ‘Big Sister’
    U. humboldtii “Large Form”
    U. humboldtii “Mt Neblina”
    U. humboldtii (Phil Faulisi clone)
    U. nelumbifolia
    U. nephrophylla “white flower”
    U. geminiloba

    Terrestrial

    U. longifolia

    Nepenthes

    N. hamata
    N. jaquelineae (BE clone)
    N. lowii (BE clone)
    N. lowii TAHBWG TC
    N. lowii “Gunung Mulu” (Wistuba)
    N. diatas
    N. inermis
    N. gymnamphora
    N. glabrata
    N. spathulata
    N. rajah (ABG clones TC1-7)
    N. caranculata (Wistuba)
    N. spec. nova Sumatra (Wistuba)
    N. spec. nova Sumatra 2A (Wistuba)
    N. stenophylla TAHBWG
    N. aristolochioides
    N. bongso “Gunung Merapi, Sumatra”
    N. x Gentle
    N. muluensis x lowii
    N. ABG 96-100 Gunung Kimiri 2800m
    N. ABG unknown
    N. ABG unknown
    N. ABG unknown

    Heliamphora

    H. heterodoxa “Ptari Tepui”
    H. nutans (T. Carrow clone)
    H. chimantensis
    H. nutans “Yuruani Tepui” TAHBWG TC
    H. nutans (Wistuba)
    H. folliculata “Murosipan Tepui”
    H. hispida
    H. pulchella “Chimanta Tepui
    H. glabra “S. Do Sol, Guyana”
    H. sarracenioides clone 1

    Drosera

    Tuberous (some are dormant and some are seedlings)

    D. stolonifera (BestCP clone)
    D. orbiculata
    D. platypoda
    D. macrantha ssp. macrantha
    D. macrantha “Wogan Hills form”
    D. peltata TAHBWG TC 1
    D. menziesii TAHBWG TC 1
    D. zonaria TAHBWG TC 1
    D. ramellosa (from Phill Mann seed)
    D. ramellosa “Rust red w/ pink flowers”
    D. erythrorhiza aff. squamosa “Scott River”
    D. aff. moorei “scrambling, produces dropper tubers”
    D. unknown tuberous “purple tuber”
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    D. unknown tuberous “red tuber”
    -Possibly D. menziesii ssp. thysanosepala (as ID’d by Sean Spence)
    D. unknown tuberous “orange tuber”
    -Possibly D. tubaestylis (as ID’d by Sean Spence)
    D. erythrogyne
    D. erythrorhiza ssp. magna
    D. intricate
    D. humilis
    D. porrecta “Northern form”
    D. purpurascens
    D. rupicola “Red”
    D. stolonifera “Giant Hills Form”
    D. browniana
    D. macrophylla ssp. monantha
    D. peltata aff. foliosa “Arampians, VIC”
    D. peltata var. gracilis “Anglesea, VIC”
    D. peltata var. gracilis “Alpine Form, Tuggeranong, ACT”
    D. peltata var. foliosa “Dwarf Form, Kuipto, S.A.”
    D. peltata var. peltata “Brisbane Ranges, VIC”
    D. macrantha ssp. planchonii “Onkaparinga River National Park, S.A”
    D. menziesii “orange” x menziesii “purple”
    D. whittakerii ssp. whittakerii “Onkaparinga National Park, S.A.”
    D. whittakerii ssp. aberrans “Arampians National Park, VIC”
    D. stricticaulis
    D. auriculata “Red Form, Mt William, Grampians National Park”
    D. erythrorhiza ssp. squamosa “laterite growing form, Brookton W.A.”
    D. aff. macrantha “northern heathland red form, Mogumber, W.A.”
    D. myriantha “Scott River W.A.”
    D. pallida “giant all green form, Burns Beach W.A”
    D. aff. pallida “South coast form, Scott River, W.A”
    D. platypoda “Willyung W.A.”
    D. porrecta “giant to 45cm, Coolup W.A.”
    D. prostrata “ Binnu W.A."
    D. platypoda “red plants, Betty’s Beach, WA”

    South American

    D. graminifolia TAHBWG TC
    D. meristocaulis TAHBWG TC
    D. chrysolepis TAHBWG TC
    D. montana TAHBWG TC

    Australian

    D. schizandra
    D. prolifera
    D. adelae “giant red”

    South African

    D. regia (Lois clone)
    D. regia cv. ‘Big Easy’
    D. regia TAHBWG TC R1
    D. regia TAHBWG TC R2
    D. regia TAHBWG TC R3
    D. slackii
    D. cistiflora "Purple Flower"
    D. cistiflora "stocky plants" (seedlings)

    Cephalotus

    So I am going to say with a large degree of confidence that you should be able to grow any cool loving species and most any highlander except for the ultras.

    Of course my level of experience is different than yours so your results may vary.
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