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    opinions on best mix

    I was wondering what kind of sphagnum would be better...LFS or just shpagnum moss. Right now I am using sphagnum and perlite because I didnt know about LFS but if it would be better to change my mix I am willing to do so.

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    LFS is "long fiber sphagnum" ... so isn't what u are saying the same?

    I wanted to use perlite..but I didn't as I read somewhere that as it ages....perlite releases flourides which are bad for nepenthes roots. Thats why I went with pure long fiber sphagnum this time.

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    I've found mixes with too much sphagnum (lfs and sphagnum are the same - there's also LIVE sphagnum) tend to pack down and get slimy over time. I still use it in smaller containers as it does hold water well, but mixed with half chunky bits like orchid bark or pumice. As I start moving my nepenthes into larger pots, I switch to a chunkier mix with no lfs at all. It's about half shredded cedar mulch (cheap in big bags from the garden store), well rinsed, and half other chunky bits like perlite, pumice, or charcoal or fir orchid bark. This drains better, and in the larger pots doesn't dry out too fast. Nepenthes like open mixes where water can move over the roots.

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    I am in too late now. I guess all I can do is learn the hard way I have wasted 19$ of good quality LFS as the potting mix for my 3 new neps. It was based on the friend who has a nepenthes greenhouse and even the potting mix posted on "nepenthes university".

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    I thought there was a difference because the stuff I bought is like a powder and labeled sphagnum moss and stuff that was sent in trades looks totally different.

    So perlite is bad or good to use in the mix? I know it is time for me to change my mix because as capslock said it is getting slimy and compact. All my Neps are doing good now but I dont want to wait for them to do bad to change the mix.
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    okay! see this:

    this is how long fiber spahgnum looks like...its like as it sounds...long fiber like...basically its just the dried sphagnum moss.



    now...I am kinda unsure of what u are exactly reffering to...are u talking about sphagnum peat? is it brown-black in colour? if it is, then thats called peat moss. its spaghnum that has semi decomposed. That is definately a bad mix for nepenthes. That definately will become compact and holds too much water.

    I heard that Long fiber on the other hand is fine but you just may have to change it in just 2 yrs or so.

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    Going by our description, I definatly have the sphagnum peat moss....the outside label just said sphagnum moss so I assumed that it was the right stuff. Will the peat moss work for any other CPs? I have a HUGE bag of it so I dont want it to go to waste.

    Well, looks like I have a lot of replanting to do, lol.

    Thanks for your help!
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    You can use peat moss for Neps, just you can't use straight peat. Mix it heavily with perlite or orchid bark or something and it would be fine.

    As for a mix suggestion - everyone is going to tell you something different. I, for one, hate coco-peat products and grow all my neps in straight Long Fiber Sphag until they are out of 4" pots, then I start adding orchid bark. As long as you just topwater LFS and let it drain out well , it doesnt break down *that* fast. If you leave it soaked it does. Then again, I've never left a plant in a pot over a year.
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