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    When to separate basal shoots?

    I picked this N madagascariensis because there were at least three plants in the pot. I believe that there are actually four and I'm wondering, how big should they be before separation can be attempted?

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    From the size they appear in the pic, I'd say go for it, separate them. As always, you should be careful with the plants after separation.

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    Hi Elbasso,
    Hi to everyone!
    How is your madagascariensis growing now?
    Somebody is growing also one?
    I really not understood if it is highland clone or more lowland clone since this Nepenthes is present in various altitudes in Madadascar!
    If you have some growing tips, please help me.
    Since now I have noticed that the plant is in peat moss with lot of quarz and perlite.
    The substrate is compact. Until now the plant was outside with day temperatures of 28 and 15 during night.
    Now since bad weather is arring and night temperatures of 6 celcius are announced I have decided to move into the terrarium the plant.
    Temperatures inside my terrarium are from 33 with neon ON and 25 with Neon OFF. TIpical lowland temperatures. Humidiy is aboout 50% to 75%.
    Any experience and tips?

    Thank you!

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    My pot is doing nicely...so far. I have decided to just let them grow for now and not separate them. I have it planted in long fiber sphagnum with perlite and orchid bark and it is sitting in my lowland tank next to a bicalcarata and growing well. The humidity stays high (around 75%).

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    The ONE clone of madagascariensis is lowland. I don't know why the info that it is highland keeps gong around, because it isn't. Give it typical lowland conditions, good air circulation, and let it get bone dry between waterings = recipe for success. It also likes a more "highlanderish" mix (i.e. more airy) than other lowlanders. Ilbasso has a decent choice of medium, though sphagnum isn't the best choice for the species, and no one has ever discovered a "perfect" mix for the species as of yet. Though it grows in Sphagnum magellanicum in situ, the repeated wetting and drying of Sphagnum at least in "captivity" causes it to break down too quickly. MrAga, I must question your use of quartz...surely it will leach SiO2 into the media?
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    Isn't all the sand we use quartz? I know we don't use aragonite lol.

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    PhissionKorps... :
    Bye the way....you are against the use of some quarz?
    Is quarz not a valid substitute for perlite?
    From what I know Quarz does not realease anything....or?

    What would from your point of view the best candidate like substrate for this Nepenthes?

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    I was under the impression that quartz releases something into the soil, which is why it is used in the cultivation of some Mexi pings (correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't people said its necessary for some species?). Perlite is many things, including about 70% SiO2, while quartz is 100% SiO2. If it doesn't release anything into the soil, then use it all you like. I can't say that I'm against it as I've never used it, just being cautious in case it does break down in some way. If you use it in your soil though, especially in decent proportion, and water every other day or so, I would have difficulty believing that (at least over time) it didn't release anything.

    What would from your point of view the best candidate like substrate for this Nepenthes?
    I have no idea. I was going to experiment with different substrates, but when I went to Germany in June, the person "taking care" of my plants killed mine. If I had another one, I would try a mixture of fir bark/perlite/charcoal/peat (my northiana mix). The reason I would try that is that northiana is also a lowlander that enjoys a more "highland" soil.
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