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    Plan for getting highlanders new lighting

    Hi guys,

    Well...Its been nearly 4 moths since I expanded my nep setup to my new enclousure. Well... The neps have now all acclaimatised. However, as expected the rajah is the issue here now. Growth is fine...its nice and green. BUT... the tendrils don't even extend more than 1 inch. I have talked to Rob Cantley and he suggested that I have tremendously low light.

    I noticed that myself as a new bical pitcher since adding extra light is nearly around 30% larger than the old ones.

    This is the dimension of my enclosure: (NOTE: 3 month old pic)



    Now as you can see there is a single light source to illuminate the plant. Its this simple GE Gro & SHo light bulb.



    Now, I guess I plan to step up the lighting for the highlanders. I plan on using this:



    each is 27 watt.

    Now my concern is the heat that is released. Being winter...the temp here is like 70F or max 72 during the day. Interestingly...My bical seems to appreciate only mid 70's and not too high temps. GRowth is bigger under these medium temps and as temps go higher it was slower in growth. my temps used to go to 90 for the bical.

    Well...this is my plan for a light setup:

    A wooden box 24 inches in length or maybe whatever is available. I am thinking CFL's are the best considering I do not need to bother about ballast etc. I think I just need that BULB connector, wires, wall outlet and bulbs ... thats it.

    here is my plan:



    Seperate plugs to modulate light amount. I can probably also use a shade cloth if required.

    Also do u think I need holes in the setup to ensure the heat rises up and keeps the lowest highland shelf cooler. I notice that CFL's run hotter than a TUBE. In case of too much heat..I can probably USE the 2 x 15 watt CFL's instead of 2 x 27 watt.

    any comments and advice would be appreciated.

    thanks,

    vraev

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    Vraev, is there a lumen reading on the CFLs? I grow lowland Neps like rafflesiana, ampullaria under 2 x 39W T5 FL with 3325 lumens output. So for you 2 x 27W CFLs, the light intensity would still be quite low.
    Cindy

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    well....considering that the gro light tube gave me just 300 lumens,

    each is 1660 Lumens, CrI is 81, temp is 6500K

    so basically net is 3320 Lumens which is like ten times more than the light I had before anyways. I think that still helps doesn't it?

    I guess if anything, I can try and see if I can get a change.\

    ALSO cindy, how high are your lights from your plants, this setup will be like 5-8 inches away from the nep...taht means lower lumen loss as well.

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    ooh btw... any other lighting source suggestions...as long as they are easy enough and cheap enough are welcome. I am limited by space, heat level and concern of safety due to that high moisture in the enclousure.

    Please tell me if I need to take special precautions with the wirig and the bulbs to ensure that nothing can go wrong with the bulbs exploding or something.

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    I can't recommend anything other than a 4 lamp (or two 2-lamp) 24 inch shoplight. That grow and show lamp isn't worth buying. It's no secret that I don't like spiral energy savers.


    Save your money and get real PC lighting.

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    The spiral bulbs are fine, and plenty cheap. Go ahead and use them. Your challenge is to provide night cooling anyway, rajah's can thrive in 80 degree daytime temps. It's getting it down significantly overnight that you have to deal with.

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    Heya Vraev. I picked up a 3 compact-bulb fluorescent canopy (Exo-Terra) a while ago for around 25$. It currently has 3 27W daylight spiral bulbs in it. The color is very similar to my T5s, but the bulbs are much cheaper (I use "nVisions" bulbs from Home Depot). It does provide light to a smaller area, but it also provides much less heat than my T5's. It has two switches to control either the outer two bulbs, or the inner one, or all three at once. I'm not sure how much your wooden fixture would cost you (in time and money), but this seems like a pretty good alternative. I should mention I do not use this to grow any CP's anymore, but I have used it in the past for some (Neps, Cephs, and Drosera).

    The fixture does look pretty cheap, and is cheaply made, but I have dropped mine a few times onto my metal weights without so much as a bulb breaking. It is 24" in length, and fits perfect atop my 20 Gallon High. Anyway hope this helps.

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    YOU ARE MY SAVIOUR. OMG! thats perfect for my shelf. The right size...the slope so that the light can be reflected down. OMG! thats wicked. And 25$?? thats insane?? that will be the cost of the materials itself. That is magnificent. Exactly waht I want.

    OMG! I am searching for this and buying it right now. HOLY COW!

    thank you thank you thank youthank youthank youthank youthank you!

    @Capslock,

    My current day temps: 70-75
    Night temps: 60-65

    . I have the confidence that my respected king is getting good night temps. Everynight the temps here are like 59F. All I need to do is decrease the thermostat on my window fan and thats it...viola....I freeze and I drop the temps in the entire room. I am prepared to do that though....and I have done it quite a few times since I got this plant.

    @ JLP,

    I know dude. I like the tubes as well. I notice that tubes give less heat than CFL. But, I have no room and the fixtures are expensive. I cannot find the 10$ fixture that people talk about and the only 2 foot fixtures I find require some wiring to make it ready for wall outlet thingy.

    However, this CFL thingy (the exoterra one) looks perfect. I can have 3 bulbs giving a nice whopping ~ 5000 lumens. I can modulate the light amount...especially considering I am also getting a talangensis soon and I read that they like bright light.

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