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Thread: Chronically deformed N. ramispina

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    Guess you're gonna have to send it to me.

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    or me!

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    Hey Clint, you ever thought about just "popping" the dent out?

    Quote Originally Posted by phissionkorps View Post
    But what if that monstrosity was allowed to breed? Think of the consequences. (literally...think about them...from a biological/conservation perspective)

    Just cross it with aristolochioides and the problem should work itself out..

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    I tried lol. Didn't work that way!

    Notice how everyone says they'd take it, but only one person has offered to trade lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    Well the plant isn't a banged up car, its looks great.
    In your opinion! I cannot possibly comprehend how difficult it is to understand that some people have different preferences about plants they may or may not want! It's a very simple concept.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    How do you know that wont aid the plant in catching bugs? Isn't it smooth and maybe the insects will land on thinking it is solid ground and fall off. If a mutation is bad for the plant they die out when it is good for the plant it carries on its genes. There is something called natural selection and it will make sure good genes go on and bad ones die. I don't really care what he does with it.
    And you tried to explain biology to me earlier? Did you read my previous point? Here it is again in case you missed it:

    Quote Originally Posted by xvart View Post
    This plant isn't in nature my friend. This plant will have nothing to do with the evolutionary development of the Nepenthes species. Yes, mutation in the wild and natural selection helped shape and form the variety of Nepenthes species; but unfortunately, this N. ramispina will not. This plant will never be reintroduced into the wild. It will never have an impact on the family of Nepenthes.
    This plant will have ZERO effect on advancing Nepenthes evolution. Unless, of course, this random mutation brought on by hormone imbalances from TC has a hidden gene attached to it that causes 60% of seed to be female! Then, Clint could carefully breed this plant with other N. ramispinato pass that gene on so that some portion of the seed could then possibly have that trait, too. Then If we are able to discern which of those seedlings also carried the gene we could then cross them as well, etc. etc. Eventually, maybe we'll have helped the N. ramispina population by creating a species that will yield much higher female seed rates! However, that's not evolution. That's selective breeding.

    The point is this: evolution does not occur passing a plant around from grow area to grow area. Cultivated, mutated plants are not the missing link in Nepenthes environments. They are just a novelty that some people like and some people don't!

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    Your one and only pest! Ant's Avatar
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    How is a dent a novelty! Its not like it has two trendals per leaf every time. I don't really care if it is a captive plant because if the mutation(we don't even know if it is one because I am only in 8th grade and just started talking about mutant genes and what not). It wouldn't effect conservation anyway, I was just responding to what sounded like people saying "what if it was in nature". Shouldn't we be trying to help him fix it if is enviomental? I would love to take the plant, how much $ should it cost.

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    Doing it wrong until I do it right. xvart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    How is a dent a novelty!
    I was using the word novelty very loosely - in the sense of it being new, or different.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustLikeAPill View Post
    If this isn't environmental, I'm going to have to trade it away.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    Is it an easy plant cause I would take it.
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    If it is one I would love to have it.
    Quote Originally Posted by CP_dude View Post
    hey, if you don't want a dented one, i'll take it, i'll fight ant for it, haha
    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    Really if you don't want I will take it and breed it.
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    Guess you're gonna have to send it to me.
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    or me!
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    I would love to take the plant, how much $ should it cost.
    If and when Clint decides to trade it away I assume he will post it in the trade forum.

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    Your one and only pest! Ant's Avatar
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    Well he asked me though my mom said I couldn't because she doesn't have enough money in the bank.

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